So we’re getting 4 years of Vance guaranteed (possibly 6 if Trump doesn’t make it to the end of his current term).
Please don’t.
Wet noodle vs vile rapist 2: electric boogaloo
It requires not supporting Israel. Have you thought about that?
Go home and stay there, you are not wanted, your fight is done.
You lost and you can never be what this world and country needs right now.
Fuck Newsome too.
I don’t want centrist Republican playmates, I want progressive left scorched earth justice.
She’s literally a Republican in just about every single way.
For the love of god fuck off. Nobody is going to vote for you. This would all but guarantee another republican win even after all of this
She’s an idiot to think her loss to a convict and rapist was anyone’s fault but her own. She’ll have even less of a chance against any reasonable candidate.
“I bet you won’t vote for a woman!”
… Ok… Do you have any policy positions we should know about?
“You wouldn’t vote for THAT guy over a woman would you?!”
Please … We literally just want healthc-
“LOOK, REPUBLICANS THAT DON’T LIKE HIM!”
As bad as it is, that really should have been enough. But too many idiot Americans failed to effectively vote against Trump; so they are responsible for him. You can cry that she didn’t motivate people, or her platform wasn’t perfect or even that her laugh was annoying. But whatever. You didn’t stop Trump, that’s on you.
On a scale of 1 to 5, with 1 being “not perfect” and 5 being “What the fuck are they thinking. They don’t even pretend to represent us, this is just vile.”, where do you rank helping a foreign apartheid state commit genocide?
The criticism isn’t about her motivating people. She deserves to be villafied. Her “platform” was disgusting. Stop scapegoating just because the newsletter tells you to.
shhhh. Let them fight in the primary.
It’s funny to think the primary means anything when it’s the DNC that will decide who wins.
While she was far from being an ideal candidate, and the Dems most definitely fumbled the entire election, let’s not forget the massive Russian bot campaign amplified by the clueless tankies, spreading that bullshit “Kamala is for genocide” crap… which was loud enough to turn a large chunk of average voters away from even voting. If not for that incredibly successful propaganda campaign, Kamala would’ve won, just by a smidge, but she would’ve come out on top.
She refused to even call Israel an apartheid state, let alone use the G word. She specifically said she wouldn’t do anything different than Biden did. That was her position. Can’t blame bot farms for her actual position.
Not wanting to say something is hardly the same as supporting it, though, isn’t it?
But that’s besides the point. The very same people who took her silence as support of genocide, implied that somehow Trump would be better.
But hey, it all worked out, right? Y’all assholes have a clean conscience not voting for someone who didn’t say the magic words, because it’s so much fucking better right now! Oh wait, it fucking isn’t because Trump isn’t just dependant on the money Israel funnels into the defense companies of the US, he’s literally in their fucking pocket, doing whatever the fuck Bibi wants to get out of jail free.
Perfection is the enemy of good, as this example has shown. Kamala wasn’t a perfect candidate, and yes, the Dems should’ve picked someone better, BUT WAS IT REALLY FUCKING WORTH IT to allow Trump to won just to rub the DNC’s nose into the mess they made, and essentially starting WW3 within a year of his election? Does it soothe your soul that you didn’t vote for someone you were TOLD by the enemies of your state is a genocide supporter, and by that, allowing someone who directly supports genocide AND raped women - including underage ones - to win? Did you win this fucking purity test? Enjoy it then. Enjoy being king on the hill of rubble. And once the dust settles you can get a fancy pin, showing everyone how you’re directly responsible for the shit the whole world is in.
She chose that silence over you, bro. All she had to do was tell Israel to fuck off. Instead, they gave missiles to a pitbull incarnated as a country.
But sure, it’s everyone else’s fault. Not the ones that were in charge of the country, and the military, and their own platform. Believe it or not, Kamala is her own person and can actually decide to do things, and she still decided to shit all over our hopes and dreams.
You guys treat her like some force of nature or something. Temperature and wind humidity hitting just the right spot and suddenly, Israel gets everything it wants and the election is lost.
Not wanting to [say] something is hardly the same as supporting it, though, isn’t it?
In most cases, sure.
Not when it’s genocide. Calling out and condemning genocide should be a no brainer.people who took her silence as support of genocide, implied that somehow Trump would be better.
That’s not how logic works.
Y’all assholes have a clean conscience not voting for someone who didn’t say the magic words
Magic isn’t real.
And of course I voted for her. Calling her a shit candidate who deserved to loose, because she was too stupid to make a compelling case against a felon and rapist, doesn’t imply anything about how I voted.Again that’s not how logic works.
Are the “tankies” in the room with you right now?
You can say it in less words that you sucked down Russian propaganda so bad, you still haven’t accepted the reality of it…
Conveniently it’s always some outside force that causes Democrats to lose, never the Democrats themselves.
talk about not accepting reality…
Yes, users like Ensign_Crab spent all day everyday screaming the “Harris is genocidal” bs every day 2 years ago. And they’re still out there all day, every day being a shill for the Putin aligned green party and is remarkably silent on the atrocities of Republicans.
Maybe Harris shouldn’t have committed to funding Israel if she didn’t want to be viewed as a genocide supporter.
If the election depends on people outside your base mincing their words about your candidate maybe your candidate just sucks.
What really gets me is that people were surprised the VP of the US wouldn’t be against genocide.
It really speaks to the failure of the education system.
She was suggesting we carry on with 70 years of foreign policy, suddenly that makes her an outlier.
Exactly. If kids had learned anything they’d know it would take at least another 70 years to change the government’s mind.
Do you think she won’t be vulnerable to the same strategy a second time?
Please point out where I expressed any kind of support for her running, or where I implied that she should run in any manner or form. Please do.
Because I’m fairly certain I pointed out that she wasn’t a good candidate, that the Dems should’ve picked someone better.
I’m also fairly certain that I made it super clear that the main issue was indeed that she was the main candidate (and that she replaced Biden too late but I think that’s obvious). That was deterring enough for most. But even then, there were enough people who would’ve voted for the ‘not Trump’ candidate even if it was a literal sack of sentient horse shit, for that candidate to win.
However, your sentiment is wrong here. Absolutely no candidate is immune to this kind of Russian meddling, because no Democrat that would make it onto the ballot would want to upset the moneymen - the people behind the defense companies that make the big bucks supplying Israel with weapons, so that that rogue apartheid genocide state can keep poking its much more powerful neighbours.
The problem is that people seemingly lack critical thinking, and consider Kamala not coming out against Israel somehow worse than Trump directly supporting it. I mean the core of the problem is that the US political system is geared towards a two-party approach, which means there will never be a good candidate for people with good conscience, so it’s not about voting for a good candidate, but preventing the worst from entrenching himself as king. But hey if you want that chip on your shoulder that you didn’t vote for the one who didn’t say the word genocide, and by that allowed the one who will do anything to appease the ones committing genocide, so yay, you did so good!
So the tankies were clueless and loud enough to turn a large chunk of voters away, but also the Dems most definitely fumbled the entire election?
Which is it?
I just think it’s funny how in their version of reality “tankies”, a group with zero political representation in America, have any kind of sway over moderate voters.
It’s truly QAnon levels of delusional.
🌈 Both can be true 🌈
The enemy is both strong and weak, hm?
Let’s actually talk through this instead of jumping to accusing me of being fascist. Because I’m betting we agree on more than you think, I just hate the dismissal of the complex factors that caused the shitstorm that got Trump elected again.
Democrats are complicit in enabling genocide in Palestine. Full stop. We should not support Israel, and the fact that that’s the default position even in the supposed “moderate” party is an utter disgrace.
That said, it’s possible for more than one genocide to happen at once, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say that that’s worse than one genocide abetted politicians that are at least more prone to influence from the electorate than the default Republican position of “fuck you if you disagree with us, we’ll kill you, too.” Now we have open and direct threats of genocide from our own state against Iran, not to mention the trans genocide happening at home.
The “strong and weak” argument does apply to the same people who claim that the Democrats shouldn’t have lost but also deserve to lose for enabling Israel. The fact of the matter is it took both for the world’s most prolific child rapist to become president. The Democrats had to fumble the bag in the most depraved way possible, and that was openly and actively exploited by foreign actors to confuse voters at home into thinking there was no point in voting. There was, and we’re learning that the hard way now.
A robust primary to find the best possible candidate?
The primary system in the USA is biased to who the first few states prefer. But if the Dems had had an actual primary last time maybe they would have found a different replacement for Biden.
No no! Let’s shove a preselected candidate down everyone’s throat and hope they hold their noses. That’ll be good enough! Best out of 3!
Hey, how many other presidential candidates have made it to a general election while never earning a single primary delegate in their entire career?!
She’s a once in a generation candidate!
/s
Best I can do is sheepdogging and pre-blaming you for the failures of the corporate establishement
-BlueMAGA
Why do people always fruitbat words when traditional ones are sufficient.
If only…
Wouldn’t that increase the chances of a non-Zionist Jewish candidate to win? That’s is by far a much worse scenario to the DNC than losing the election.
I thought her family is Zionist. She spent her whole term as VP providing diplomatic protection for Israel, and in part served a meaningful role in one of the worst man made famines in human history and the destruction of Gaza. Maybe she’s not explicitly genocidal, but her actions are what brought the world to this exact global mess. Whether one blames Trump or not, there’s a sequence of actions taken to get here - I’m just saying Harris and the surrounding network is a part of that.
I suppose the world may be in the process of coming to terms that the Americans can no longer solve the issue internally. At some point, I wouldn’t be surprised as more countries just negotiate directly with Iran, and without the US.
NO.
GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM NATIONAL POLITICS.
No
She should not.
In order to win it requires you to fuck off somewhere else.
I’d say Democrats never learn from their mistakes, but there probably won’t even be a 2028 election.
They don’t. Or they’d start reading the room and actually start pushing an actual “change agent”. They’re too stuck on running people whose whole ethos is “if only things were how they had been back in the 90s” (when DNC had power). Was a great time for them, but since Regan, everything’s been getting shittier for everyone not in the political or donor class. They need to run a FDR not a Biden.
They need to run a FDR not a Biden.
Lol they never will because that would be an actual threat to their owners’ power.
I’d say Democrats never learn from their mistakes
I mean, if you did say that…
Someone would just point out it only means you’re 15 months late to the party and still only getting your news from billionaires.
And man, that would be embarrassing
