Second-highest figure in Tibetan Buddhism makes apparent reference to succession of exiled spiritual leader Dalai Lama
I thought the Dalai Lama said the he would not reincarnate.
Obviously because he know chinese influence would institute someone who supports Chinese control as the next Dalai lama.
Yeah, then Beijing anointed some random to be the next one iirc, and he’s not recognized officially. I’m guessing that’s this dude.
China baaically kidnapped the Pachen Lama. No one has seen him for years. He is either replaced or brainwashed…either way, the Pachen names tha Dalai. So basically China is pucking a Dalai lama that will support China over Tibet.
This apparently isn’t even the “real” Panchen Lama, but is the one chosen by China to replace the one that was kidnapped and was chosen by the Dalai Lama.
This apparently isn’t even the “real” Panchen Lama
Sort of the joke of religious doctrine. These people aren’t actually reincarnated Buddhist Wizards who can magically divine the destiny of their successors.
This Panchen Lama is as much “real” as the current Dalai Lama is “real”.
These are humans, they can be educated and influenced as easily as anyone, and their politics/religion is a consequence of their upbringing rather than some magical pre-birth spiritual intuition. And they can also grow up, realize their position in the world, and regret their decisions in hindsight.
In 1999, the Dalai Lama suggested that the CIA Tibetan program had been harmful to Tibet because it primarily served American interests, claiming “once the American policy toward China changed, they stopped their help … The Americans had a different agenda from the Tibetans.”
Gyalo Thondup, the Dalai Lama’s elder brother, also expressed frustration with the role of the CIA in Tibetan affairs. In a 2009 interview, he stated “I never asked for CIA military assistance. I asked for political help. I wanted to publicize the Tibet situation, to make a little noise. The Americans promised to help make Tibet an independent country. All those promises were broken.” He continues, claiming that America “didn’t want to help Tibet. It just wanted to make trouble for China. It had no far-sighted policy for Tibet. I wasn’t trained for this (clandestine operations). We didn’t know about power politics.”
During the Tibetan program’s period of activity, some of its largest contributions to the CIA’s interests in the region came in the form of keeping the Chinese occupied with resistance, never actually producing a mass uprising establishing independence for Tibet from Beijing. The program also produced a trove of army documents that Tibetan insurgents seized from the Chinese and turned over to the CIA in 1961 in what has been referred to as “one of the greatest intelligence successes of the Cold War”.
I don’t follow religious doctrine either, but as long as the adherents aren’t acting in ways that are harmful to others, I personally try not to insult or belittle them or their beliefs.
The information regarding the CIA is interesting though. The fact that the US reneged on their promises and only used Tibet to extract information about China is depressing, but not surprising.
Magical thinking, in and of itself, is harmful to all of society.
Perhaps, but some of the greatest inventions and discoveries were made by people who followed magical thinking.
Religion has unquestionably caused untold suffering, but that’s not the only outcome of religion. There has also been untold suffering that had nothing to do with religion.
adherents aren’t acting in ways that are harmful to others
Genocide is never justified.
It’s also wrong to act like the actions of Myanmar or any perpetrator of genocide are representative of a religious monolith. Do you think it would be beneficial to insult and vilify Buddhists, and normalize that behavior because of the actions of Myanmar?
Insulting and vilifying adherents of a religion, and treating them like a monolith are exactly what leads to religious persecution, and in some cases genocide.
On a more basic level, it’s just needlessly hostile. Life is difficult enough on its own, why spend time and energy insulting others based on something that overwhelmingly does not affect you or your community?
This has been expected since the abduction of the real Panchen Lama
Hes only saying that because he was kidnapped and brainwashed
Look no matter how you feel about the China and i dislike their government as well the “kidnapped” person was according to them relocated and allowed to live a regular life and there is something to be said to not allow a six year old to be forced to a religious figure forced to abide by among other things vows of celibacy.
Why do you keep putting kidnapped in quotes? Do you believe the forced removal of a whole family is not considered kidnapping? Or are you just being pedantic: “It’s not a kidnapping if they took more than just the kid. It’s an abduction.”
Yes, the government that was accused of abducting a family is in the right, because that same government says they are treating that family well, and no, no one is allowed to independently verify that, but obviously you have every reason to take our word for it
Ah yes instead of indoctrination into the religion of his people he gets indoctrinated into the thinking of a politcal state hostile to his people. Basically equivalent /s
Brainwashed Panchen Lama vs CIA operative Dali Lama, who will win?
Funny how Lemmy.ml doesn’t post anything which could reasonably be recognised as leftism, and instead just posts “western countries bad” garbage over and over and over again.
Just for you, positives of leftist governance without bringing up the west :)
If the PRC was leftist they probably wouldn’t lock up Uyghurs in camps, or threaten to invade Taiwan with military force.
Ah, the no true leftist argument, I have never seen this before. Leftist doesnt mean perfect, yeah they have issues. They also happen to be the left leaning powerhouse, and that’s one step closer to international communism that is powerful enough to properly address these issues, not capitalists that are playing the oppressed classes.
I wouldn’t call an imperialist nation “left leaning”. To me it’s like when the Nazis called themselves socialists. But anyway I guess we will have different perspectives on this.
Can you give examples of their imperialism? I dont remember them invading anywhere in my memory, but maybe I am forgetting?
Obviously, anyone who doesn’t like their people being genocided by the CCP must be a CIA operative.
Lol what genocide
