I find it ironic that Vance has talked about Europe supposedly not being democratic and supposedly not listening to the will of the people. Hillary Clinton in 2016 (whether you like her or not) got more votes than Trump. If the US respected the will of the people, they’d get rid of the electoral college, and they would have inaugurated Hillary as president.

Well I can see things that are obviously true and you apparently can’t, so I guess I’m not as daft as you

I didn’t say they had exercised force, I said they’re likely planning the use of force to take over Taiwan, whether the people of Taiwan want that or not. I would regard that as imperialistic. I think it would be more humane to respect the wishes of Taiwan - if they want to join the PRC then okay, but if they don’t then perhaps that should be respected.

I don’t know for how long they may have planned it. But I think it’s likely that they would have created some sort of plans for an invasion of Taiwan, based on their statements where they say they don’t rule out force to take over Taiwan. From this article:

Peng Qing’en, a spokesperson for China’s Taiwan Affairs Office, told a regular news conference in Beijing that peaceful “reunification” under the “one country, two systems” model is the fundamental approach to “resolving the Taiwan issue”.

“We are willing to create ample space for peaceful reunification and will spare no effort to pursue this prospect with the utmost sincerity,” he said.

“However, we absolutely will not renounce the use of force and reserve the option to take all necessary measures.”

Yeah I dunno, how does planning an invasion to expand your land make you imperial. I’m stumped. As for locking up Uyghurs, I didn’t say that’s imperialist behaviour, I said it’s behaviour that I don’t think is “left leaning”. I guess you could call it tyrannical behaviour.

Wanting to invade Taiwan, claiming all of the Spratly and Paracel islands. And as I said there is other behaviour which I don’t think is “left leaning”, such as locking up Uyghurs in camps.

I wouldn’t call an imperialist nation “left leaning”. To me it’s like when the Nazis called themselves socialists. But anyway I guess we will have different perspectives on this.

If the PRC was leftist they probably wouldn’t lock up Uyghurs in camps, or threaten to invade Taiwan with military force.

Funny how Lemmy.ml doesn’t post anything which could reasonably be recognised as leftism, and instead just posts “western countries bad” garbage over and over and over again.