• PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf
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    That’s the important part. Only 5% regret their vote. Most people in this thread who are celebrating and laughing, only read the headline.

    This kind of “told you so!” stuff and thinking they were untouchable is what led to the Democrats loss. And will again if people aren’t careful. People need to stop thinking “Not Trump!”, because that doesn’t win elections. Dems need to come up with some good candidates who are more than just “not Trump.”

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      These are articles are for leopardsatemyface crowd. It’s simply about smug hur during. Nothing of value will be accomplished. Probably gonna get worse.

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      5% regret their vote

      Read that, then look at how small election splits are. This is a good thing.

      Do we get frustrated and angry as we wish everyone who defaulted to voting right because their parents did and they don’t know better and can’t be bothered to read real news? Yes.

      Should we be happy when enough people show change to be visible on the horizon? Also yes.

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        because their parents did and they don’t know better and can’t be bothered to read real news?

        OR some people just don’t believe the same things you do, and they vote Republican. Welcome to democracy.

        Not everyone who votes differently than you is just ignorant and can’t be bothered to read news.

        Pushing the fallacy that Republicans/republican voters are ignorant or uninformed, is what made you all lose to Trump. Twice. You lost to Trump 2 different fucking times. Look in a mirror!

        I know plenty of republicans who are smart and a force to be reckoned with. I don’t agree with or subscribe to a lot of their views, but I wouldn’t call them ignorant.

        Thinking they’re ignorant is what fucked the Dem party in the first place.

        Also, before people attack me for being a Trump. Nah, you can attack me for being “BoTh SiDeS” though, because I think both sides suck equally. I’m a third party voter. And very proud of it.

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          The ones you speak of don’t regret their vote, and never will, so I have no need to address them as it relates to the statistic. Also, ignorant doesn’t mean dumb. Lastly, I’m glad you feel your third-party vote had an impact, vs voting in primaries to push the right candidate that could succeed. (if one happens).

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            Lastly, I’m glad you feel your third-party vote had an impact

            Thanks. It had an impact on me, as it’s my right to vote for who I want to win. Without regard of who people are afraid of winning. If the Democrats are really concerned, they can pick better candidates.

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      Have you read the article? Because it’s not 5% but 16% that would vote differently:

      So while some might prefer to not call it “regret,” 16% would apparently do things differently with hindsight.

      Also 5% is more than enough to tip the results.

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        The article is saying a measurable 13–16% slice of Trump voters now shows some regret or would change their vote, roughly double earlier levels and double Harris voters’ regret. The “5%” is the narrowest possible definition. That’s why different people are quoting different numbers from the exact same piece.

        From article: “Just to underscore, these surveys suggest between 1 in 8 and 1 in 6 Trump voters express some measure of regret for their 2024 votes. Were those percentages to desert the GOP in the 2026 midterm elections, it would almost undoubtedly be a wave election for Democrats.”

        But that’s great news then, right? Nothing to be worried about then, right? No reason for everyone to be mad. In 2 years, Dems win. Right?

        I mean, I’ll be voting third party unless Dems choose AOC, but you all should be fine without me. Right? Hmmm…

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        You’re giving the average person too much credit. Majority of people are genuinely incapable of either learning a lesson or applying the lesson elsewhere. Like sure they may now see some bad results of their vote and may regret it but they’re not actually internalizing any of it, they’re not working on themselves to be less susceptible to authoritarianism or to break to down any of the bullshit they believed on the way to making that vote they “regret”.

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            I didn’t mean it as an attack on you or anything, was just referring to the “5% is enough to tip the vote”. These people won’t vote differently even we do get to have a halfway “normal” election.

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      The party is losing support poll after poll after poll, and they think attacking leftists is going to help. The polls are screaming that they are going in the wrong direction, and they are completely obsessed with Hasan Piker right now. There is a coordinated effort going on across social media that is so sad and obvious. They are flailing and crashing out and it’s pathetic. I’ve never seen a party more outwardly hostile to its own voters than the mother fucking Democratic party. The Republicans at least feign like they care about their voter’s desires (mostly because they just tell their voters what they want).

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        The party is losing support poll after poll after poll, and they think attacking leftists is going to help.

        Yep, just now, in another thread I was accused of being being propaganda. LMAO All because I said that back in 2024, Lemmy was even more hostile to people who criticized the Dem party than they are now. It was wrong to do then, and wrong to do now lol

        Democrats just can not accept responsibility for what happened for some reason. It’s always a blame game.

        They need better candidates or shit’s gonna get even worse. How hard is it to find someone under the age of 60, and who has independent forward-thinking ideas and cares about the public?! WTF?! I like AOC, but I am not hearing any talk of them putting her in the running, so no clue what they are gonna do. But election is only 2 years away. They need to start doing something.

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        The Democratic party isn’t there to represent left-wing voters. They’re there to make sure that left-wing voters don’t get represented by any party

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      Before any Centrist disagree, ask yourself who’s currently the president and why. Ask yourself if centrism is a viable strategy for stopping Trump and candidates like Trump based on the evidence, not the common knowledge that’s been disproven

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        Many Dems on Lemmy would rather just label you as ‘propaganda’, than admit that you are right. lol

        You’re right, tho!