The list they're creating says so, anyway
  • whitecollarcry@lemmy.world
    27·
    9 hours ago

    “Patey is seen in many videos advocating the principles of Antifa.”

    🤣 these really are the dumbest mother fuckers huh

    • robocall@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      7 hours ago

      I’m pretty sure they said this guy is the Antifa leader for the Portland, OR chapter. Which chapter do you head?

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    19·
    10 hours ago

    I figured the antifa core leadership took up a position living under the bed of every prominent right-wing dumbass that was obsessed with antifa.

    Also, I want Democrats and reporters, etc. to start grilling every right wing jackass as to what “antifa” means when one of these idiots start spouting their stupid nonsense about antifa.

    Example:

    “Antifa? What does that mean? Anti-WHAT? Could you say it louder? Anti-FASCIST? What exactly is bad about being against FASCISM, may I ask? Are you FOR FASCISM, Mr. President/Mr. Speaker/Ms. Secretary/etc?”

    Ask it every single time they bring it up. Ask if they support fascism.

    • robocall@lemmy.worldOP
      3·
      7 hours ago

      but this guy has a working brain, and a working toilet that is in close proximity to an ICE facility – therefore toilet = Antifa headquarters

  • Paragone@piefed.socialEnglish
    15·
    11 hours ago

    I think people NEED to be using the root-guru of the Christians, benJoseph, as THE leader of Antifa:

    He was woke.

    He was socialist.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+4%3A32-35&version=CJB

    Acts 4: “32 All the many believers were one in heart and soul, and no one claimed any of his possessions for himself, but everyone shared everything he had. 33 With great power the emissaries continued testifying to the resurrection of the Lord Yeshua, and they were all held in high regard. 34 No one among them was poor, since those who owned lands or houses sold them and turned over the proceeds 35 to the emissaries to distribute to each according to his need.”

    He was anti-commercial-operation-of-the-temple, & got physically-violent about that.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+11%3A15-18%2CMatthew+21%3A12-16%2CLuke+19%3A45-47%2CJohn+2%3A13-16&version=CJB

    He claimed that it was easier to get an elephant … dromedary, sorry, through the eye of a needle, than for some oligarch to earn place in heaven…

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19%3A23-24&version=CJB

    He claimed that the ONLY unforgiveable crime was committing against LivingSpirit.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+12%3A31-37&version=CJB

    ( that last one: I guarantee you that verse of their bible is going to be deemed “satanic” in dictator-Trump’s US of A… it’s too on-point against Trump’s religion. & "Ruach HaKodech, or whatever that spelling was… that’s LivingSpirit.

    Here’s a more-comprehensible, for us non-Jews, version of it: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+12%3A31-37&version=EXB )

    That’s as anti-fascist/anti-moneyarchist/anti-oligarchist as can be.

    & the “Christian” nationalism won’t be able to compute that.

    which means it’s probably important to make that real/happen.

    Left-handed monkey-wrenches into their machinery’s gears is required, now.

    _ /\ _

    • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
      5·
      10 hours ago

      That’s Josh ben Yusef to you.

      And most Christian Nationalists have never actually read their seminal text; just out of context selections fed to them by their leaders.

      • halcyoncmdr@piefed.socialEnglish
        3·
        9 hours ago

        The easiest way to turn a Christian into an Atheist is to have them actually read the Bible. Not tiny segments selected piecemeal and recycled just far enough apart that they forget they’ve read that part before, avoiding the majority of the book.

    • nomad@infosec.pub
      1·
      7 hours ago

      You know the first move is to remove those who helped you get into power. So Trump America could actually be atheistic.

      • SpikesOtherDog@ani.socialEnglish
        1·
        25 minutes ago

        It makes more sense to co-opt and bastardize the existing religion than to demonize it. Nazi party created a whole spirituality by cutting and patching together whatever religious bits fit their narrative.

    • FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz
      2·
      9 hours ago

      The camel/elephant line is a mistranslation. In Greek the words camel and rope are homophones. It makes it a more apt analogy, as a rope is essentially a much thicker thread.

      • lonefighter@sh.itjust.works
        21·
        9 hours ago

        From my understanding, it’s not referring to the eye of a physical needle, but the city he was in when he made that analogy had a small gate known as “The Eye of the Needle” that was meant for human passage and not carts/large animals, which would go through the main gates. You could theoretically force a camel through it, but it would be nearly impossible. I heard that long long ago from some video that analyzed the meaning and context behind biblical stories and have no idea if that’s actually real, so I’d be happy to be proven wrong or right.

        • btsax@reddthat.com
          1·
          1 hour ago

          It would be weird for the guy who only speaks in metaphor to not use a metaphor this one time.

          Really this is just a modern reinterpretation of this verse that lets people drive their Mercedes from their gated community once a week to church and not feel bad about it

        • FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz
          2·
          8 hours ago

          This is what I found.

          "Some theorize that the needle Jesus was speaking of was the Needle Gate, supposedly a low and narrow after-hours entrance found in the wall surrounding Jerusalem. It was purposely small for security reasons, and a camel could only go through it by stripping off any saddles or packs and crawling through on its knees. The problem with this theory is there is no evidence such a gate ever existed. Beyond that, what sane camel driver would go through such contortions when larger gates were easily accessible?

          Others claim that the word translated “camel” (Greek: kamelos) should actually be “cable” (Greek: kamilos). Then the verse would read that it is easier for a cable (or rope) to go through the eye of a needle. To believe this, however, brings up more problems than it solves, namely casting doubt on the inerrancy and inspiration of Scripture"

          This answer came from a christian website and I don’t believe the bible is infallible or anything so I don’t care about that final line and think the 2nd option is more likely. Like even if you are Christian, to believe a possible mistranslation is “casting doubt” is fucking wild. There are proven mistranslations in the King James version already.

          • lonefighter@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            7 hours ago

            Interesting! I also agree the second option sounds far more likely. I was raised super Christian (am not anymore) and I never understood or agreed with the belief that the Bible can’t be mistranslated, deliberately or accidentally. It’s been hundreds of years that humans have had their hands on it and humans suck. Of course it’s been twisted and misconstrued.