It is like the SS is coming.
And italy knows their fascists!
More like the SA.
This will age like milk
It kinda is …
Puttana motherfucker.
Well, yes it is.
Why is US Immigrations and Customs Enforcement even going to provide security for a sports event in another country, anyway? It seems bizarrely out of scope.
Honestly, it’s a rare chance for us Europeans to organise a huge protest against ICE. Now I’m kinda dreaming this happens.
They will deport all the Italians in Italy, obviously.
yah it kind of is turning into that.
Buddy, it’s like the SS are coming.
American here. Can confirm.
O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao
And even if it wasn’t, when the SS is what first comes to mind when thinking “who is worse than ICE?”, that’s already enough of a problem on its own.
They already have no legitimacy in the US, fuck business do they have going to another country?
It’s exactly like that.
It’s weird how well they knew what to claim while claiming the opposite
You mean the country that invented fascism doesn’t see the problem with ICE?
And also currently have a fascist government.
This is their current Prime Minister…
I see “Mussolini” and “buon politico” and feel like I can piece enough together.
I don’t speak Italian either, but I know enough Spanish (not much) to figure out what it says…
Speak spanish
I think that mussolini was a good politician
To be fair, the SS used IBM and cocaine to achieve levels of efficiency that ICE can only dream of. ICE is using hallucinating LLMs and Sudafed, clearly.
Buddy, your grandpa got the same thing wrong 90 years ago.
I mean Italy has always viewed the SS in positive light, so makes sense they view ICE the same way
Well not always, the Ardeatine Cave massacre did manage to change public opinion.
That seems like quite a generalization to make. Care to elaborate?
Italy and Germany were allies during world war two. The word fascism was coined by Mussolini, an Italian. So making a joke referencing something based on history. And right now their stance is if not similar its rhyming.
Would you make the same joke about all germans always, based on their history and the recent resurgence of the far-right?
I’ll remind you that it was italian partisans who killed Mussolini and italians were the ones to beat the body up and hung it up on that square.
And 2 generations later moussies grand-daughter came to power.
In germany the AfD, the Neonazi party, is rising in popularity.
So in conclusion, yes, yes I will. Also germany didn’t pay shit for what they did to their Jewish population. So yes… I will make jokes.
As bampop said in a different branch of this convo, a country is more than its government. To declare an entire country nazis discounts the existence and in some cases the life’s work of a lot of good people. I can appreciate a joke, but right now I really want to focus on the fact that anti-fascism is also everywhere, and that as history repeats itself, the good parts can also be repeated. If not, then all is lost.
My flatmate is german. He’s a marxist academic writing a thesis comparing the far right parties of Spain, Germany and Finland. The AfD is getting more and more votes, but the vast majority hate their guts.
Brother. The current prime minister of Italy thinks Mussolini was a good politician. Italy is run by neo-fascists.
Sure, but to say thay Italy [as a whole] has always been like that discounts the efforts of a lot people, including former governments.
Sorry if I’m nitpicking. I just want to stay conscious of the fact that the forces opposing fascism never went away, and that as history repeats itself, the good parts can also be repeated.
You’re not nitpicking. It’s like saying USA is all Nazis. A country is more than its current government. Unfortunately neither Italy nor the USA have a particularly well functioning democracy.
