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Fuentes is the logical endpoint of the GOP.
They hate him because he embraced that before they did, and he’s gaining ground while they’re losing it.
Let’s just hope this infighting lasts as long as possible and destroys them all permanently
What I don’t get about MAGA incels is that they seem to be deathly afraid of women. The whole bizarro stance about trad wives and submission seems to be a cultural ploy to make women less fearsome.
What are they so afraid of? And why aren’t they more afraid that these ridiculous fears will make them look like pathetic losers?
They’re afraid of the same thing all these right wing nuts are afraid of: someone else being in power.
It turns out that when you base your entire political and economical landscape on abusing and suppressing the cultural “out” groups, becoming one of those groups is scary.
Right, but they are the alpha macho men that are not afraid of anything. Don’t they realize how pathetic they look when they base their opinions on pure expressions of fear? Of fear, in particular, of what they consider “lesser?”
They are men that project the image of not being afraid of anything. They are actually very scared of a lot of things. Lots of their shit is performative.
They feel sad, angry, lonely, powerless, love starved. In short they are alienated from society.
This needs to be talked about more. There are plenty who are just misogynists.butnthe ones you describe can still be reached.
Which is really sad, because they could get what they want and need, but they go about it the wrong way.
Women who recognize their own personhood are a threat to right-wingers. Can’t have visible examples of that sort of thing or the ones they’ve ensnared might notice and start having ideas.
The Democratic Party needs to really unleash everyone calling the GOP weird. Because they are just full of freaks like this guy. I’m pretty sure this guy was caught playing bum darts with another guy - him being gay is not the weird part here, it’s him being so repressed about it and so weird about women.
Also, this guy sounds like Tobias Fuenke, without the charm.
I don’t understand people that follow this guy? What’s the appeal? Follow Nick and become a weird closeted freak and supposed virgin that says ridiculous things about sex and women (as well as Jews, and, well, just about everything else)?
Calling them weird was really effective. Then the Harris campaign managers told Tim Walz to stop doing it.
The center and left needs to reach out to the alienated, lonely, and disaffected young men. They are easy prey for right wing extremists.
For incels, Nick is the only one who gives them a sense of community and a comforting worldview where nothing is their fault.
I do like this idea; I don’t know how that is done in a systemic way. I remember one point of Moore’s Bowling for Columbine is that there seem to be a dwindling amount of “third places” and that civic engagement (fraternal orders and so on) has gone off a cliff - and Columbine was a decade before the smart phone.
I doubt things like civic engagement have gone up since.
Kind of amazing that the ‘there are no more third spaces’ cry has been going on for decades now completely unheeded.
It sure does seem there is evidence for a loneliness epidemic hitting many people and young men are especially susceptible and probably have less (positive) life skills to fall back on.
It explains people like Jordan Peterson, as well as Fuentes, I guess.
Also, they are pretty much the only people reaching out to them
There are already large incel groups forming “men’s rights militias”, congealing around charismatic content creators who use a potent mix of white nationalism, Sharia law, and identity politics.
They are the ones that alienated them in the first place. They chose identity politics and making white men the enemy instead of class struggle.
I don’t need to follow him to get that result
Right? I’m doing just fine without any right wing influence.
Nick Fuentes, an avowed “intel” and white supremacist, speaks to supporters on June 15, 2024.
I get that proofreading is hard, but come on.
Intel: Never Inside
There is also:
The constant drumbeat of weird sexual displays is likely a major reason the MAGA coalition, which was flying high at the beginning of the year, is losing popularity rapidly, especially with younger voters.
Fuentes is no outlier in MAGA. In 2025, the right’s leaders and influencers revealed the deep sexual dysfunction driving their movement. The constant drumbeat of weird sexual displays is likely a major reason the MAGA coalition, which was flying high at the beginning of the year, is losing popularity rapidly, especially with younger voters.
Unless it is normal to wholesale repeat a paragraph in another paragraph? The article is just weird.
It’s a pull quote, the way it’s presented on the page is pretty normal. They’ve copied the latter half of the paragraph and put it in a frame above with bold type for emphasis.
You are right, but (as not OP) I gotta say I dislike that in both internet and legacy media. Can’t they work around that so the quoted text only appears in their highilght blocks? I feel like I’m getting spoon-fed suggested facebook statuses when I’m seeing a (web)page formatted like this.
“Yeah, but what about this typo I just found?”
I’m not disagreeing with the article at all.
But it’s right there before the article even started. It’s not a very good look.
Typos happen. Shrug
Why are we defending a publication that makes money via advertising and subscriptions for failing to have an effective editor? This isn’t someone posting nonsense in a comments section; the author is apparently a “senior writer” for Salon. Why should we stop attempting to hold supposed professionals accountable for being professional? I get that the world hasn’t exactly been great at professionalism lately, but letting our standards slip isn’t going to fix that.
Have you ever worked a news desk? I have. It’s making sausage. You just caught a glimpse of someone dropping the meat and stuffing it back in. Write a letter to the editor with a correction if you want to help. Here, editorial complaints go nowhere and serve no purpose.
A matador frustrates a bull until he kills it, which is not a metaphor that coheres to how normal people have sex.
Actually, that makes a lot of sense from an incel point of view. They want to hurt, and frustrate their partner until they finally finish by killing her (figuratively, I hope) and then move on to another victim. Sounds like a likely MAGA fantasy to me.
