• Empricorn@feddit.nl
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    3 months ago

    I genuinely can’t imagine how this pedophile billionaire could sound more out-of-touch and apathetic. Anyone who still approves of him is a fucking idiot.

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      3 months ago

      That’s the point. He’s not talking about himself or his fellow swampdwellers. He’s talking about the plebs, who will have to get used to having less while working harder - because Trump and his oligarch buddies have taken it all.

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      3 months ago

      the America you lot voted for

      Every two years we vote. Every two years things get worse.

      Clearly, the problem is with the people doing the voting. Couldn’t possibly be something fundamentally dysfunctional in our democratic model.

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        I see it as a two part problem. One, the current party setup one party ratchets us towards fascism, the other obstructs attempts to go back for “bi-partianship.” Secondly, I hear most swing voters consider themselves moderates and from experience along with other’s inspection of them, they’re only concerned about order until it affects them. In thusly they’re essentially just a brand of conservatism. Sounds a lot like the typical liberal.

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      The vast majority of Americans didn’t vote for this. Two thirds of us didnt vote for this. If you think this is the voters’ fault, you dont understand the world very well, my friend.

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        1/3 of them didn’t vote, which is very much a vote in and of itself and don’t dare absolve them by letting them continue their “I didn’t vote for this” narrative. You fucking did the moment you chose not to vote.

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      Kamala Harris targeted Republican women for a good portion of her campaign, and dropped a lot of the very popular Democratic platform, resulting in millions of Democrats sitting this one out.

      Do you think this is because they are stupid? Why would they do this if not to take a knee? And I still thought that Trump would lose, I couldn’t believe that he would be re-elected. I’m never cynical enough.

      Imagine if she ran on a $15 an hour minimum wage increase, helping many millions of our poorest Americans, with over 60% voter support (not Democrat). Our consumer economy would get millions of new consumers participating.

      Ds and Rs are now 30% each, independents are 40% of the voters. Both parties know that they cannot win without a majorly popular independent issue. Why was this ignored?

      Oh, almost forget, yes, I know, BoTh SiDeS and so on.

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        I have been an Unafilliated Independent since I registered to vote in 1977. Neither party can win without me, but they can’t count on my vote. If they want my vote, they have to EARN it, and they even seldom try.

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          In the nicest possible way, and only judging from this post, you are part of the problem. Hear me out:

          They don’t actually need you. Either party. There’s a solid base of voters who are going to vote blue or stay home, or vote red or stay home. If you require being courted, then you’re either effectively random, staying home, or lean towards one side over the other.

          You’re possibly upset that none of your choices are good. That’s pretty true. ‘both sides’ have reasons to not vote for them. You need to help fix that: pick a side, whichever one you lean towards, and go make the choices better.

          Local politics (the ones at the precinct, county, state levels) decide how we choose our candidates in the larger races by deciding who represents us on those larger stages internally to the party. Example: the general public was not polled for the dnc chair election, it was only people put into dnc leadership, who were voted for, several steps down, by people at the precinct level. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Democratic_National_Committee_chairmanship_election

          Is there corporate bullshit here? almost certainly. Can it be overcome? Only if people are paying attention and care to get involved. Voting only in November elections and expecting the candidates to cater to you specifically will not resolve the problems.

          The candidates don’t need to work for your vote. You need to work for better candidates. Or shut up and vote for the least harm.

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        Are there some fundamental differences between Dems and GQP? Sure, some, but as a person who has taken an outside view of politics through expanding my political knowledge and understanding, when it comes down to it they only have surface level differences. When Madami was running for Mayor of New York the Democrat establishment threw every nasty thing they could to STOP him. Get this straight, they would have rather a MAGA win than an avowed Democratic Socialist. THAT tells me what I really need to know about the majority of the Democrats in the party.

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          At this point, the difference is mostly in stability. It’s highly unlikely that Harris would have slapped a bunch of tarrifs around willy nilly, and she probably wouldn’t be blowing up a bunch of ships near Venezuela (I wouldn’t rule it out, but I would assume that the false flag operation would be more subtle).

          US voting is 100% picking the lesser evil, at least for now. The current hope would be that democratic socialists gain enough standing to take over the democratic party, so that voters have meaningful choice. In an ideal world, we’d repeal things like citizens united as well