A study conducted in Germany found that men with higher IQs are less inclined to traditional values, but the lead author, psychologist and intelligence researcher Maximilian Krolo of Saarland University, said the researchers did not find these differences among women.
DAT ASS THO!
Here’s a link to the paper, so you don’t have to read an article about an article.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289625000893
So IQ is still a valid measuring method is it?
The criteria for what counts as “valid measure method” is not “metrics that would make your ingroup look good”.
Higher IQ is also associated with higher Critical Thinking Skills, which help you recognize and avoid conservative propaganda.
I honestly wouldn’t have expected this, unless IQ was also correlated to empathy somehow
I think there was a big educational push to leverage empathy in planning.
Like adding in motivation for why Suzy has a need for two or your apples, that involves empathy drive up scores.
Perhaps you plan for one, but end up selecting for another accidentally.
I will count of the list of Conservative scientists:
End of list
Of course. There’s a reason why conservatives don’t want the masses educated. Because they’d see how much they’re getting fucked by said conservatives.
That’s why they’ve been attacking public schools for decades, and why they push religion in schools.
The kids of the filthy rich go to private schools that teach capitalism the same way they have for generations.
And how to win at it and defend it from democracy
Aaah a feel-good article for leftists.
Plenty of dumb dumbs among us, don’t worry.
Present! I don’t even remember my times tables
There’s a reason universities lean heavily left
I would disagree on the “heavily” unless you accept the US definition of the right-left paradigm.
Also ignore if you mean heavy in population ratio not how far the needle goes.
What university did you go to?
A canadien one.
Highly depends on what university you go to and whether or not you participate in the Greek culture.
whether or not you participate in the Greek culture.
yogurt?
We’re talking about Universities here, not the hundreds of bullshit liberal arts colleges that are just sleep camps for the Learning Annex.
It really doesnt.
Sure, but perhaps take solace that we’re less deliberately hateful and that stupidity isn’t celebrated as it is among the arch conservatives?
I think that political allegiance is often much more about emotions and sociological relations than intellect. Class thinking is more prevalent than we assume nowadays
IQ testing is pseudoscience. It’s one of the preferred methods of the far right to try to differentiate between races for that very reason. Pseudoscience is a lot more malleable for their purposes than the settled science that says race doesn’t exist biologically.
Having a “high IQ” is only proof that you’re good at IQ tests.
Veritasium made a video talking about IQ tests, their validity and so on. https://youtu.be/FkKPsLxgpuY?is=WpF8XXHPRKMAG2Lo
One of my key takeaways: IQ tests have some validity as a diagnostic tool for asessing cognitive disabilities or illnesses, but they should not be taken as serious and significant as many less informed people seem to do.
For your own privacy, and the privacy of everybody else interacting with you.
When you share a YouTube link, if you don’t remove the
si=ID, anybody that clicks on that link will then be associated with you. It’s one of the tools Google uses to track your internet usage.Veritasium is the puppet of an investment firm.
Your takeaway on IQ is accurate.
Also see it as a tool, I do think that tool has to be adapted to the region to be usefull. A Dutch or French IQ test (not even language related) would not be usefull in Brazil or Namibia. As far as I know to be usefull it needs to be based on local education and living situations.
One of my key takeaways is that it may have some value in aggregate, like this study, but does not tell an individual how smart they are
It’s not completely pseudo-science, as there are a lot of correlations with things like academic success or job performance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Social_correlations
Oh yea, so does your zip code.
I think that extreme upper and lower bounds do say something, but few point differences are entirely worthless. Scoring a 70 is rather significant, and 160 probably is too, but 100 vs 90 vs 110? Meaningless.
…and are cunning linguists too!
hello ladies
I’m not a pheasant plucker, I’m a lussy picker.
To be liberal requires empathy. A deep understanding of others and their situations and the knowledge that your own personal needs dont always automatically outweigh others.
Empathy requires emotional intelligence.
Its easy to see it in action. Pick a problem and then look at the solutions offered by populist politicians to solve them.
In the UK one of the problems is immigrants arriving on small boats. The populist “solution”? “STOP THE BOATS” shouted far and wide.
How we ask?
And then silence. And when pressed, the likes of Reform offer more soundbites like “use the navy” and “send them back” but without any substance.
Meanwhile Liberal politicians offer actual solutions that are not sound bites, and they won’t work quickly. Things like working with the French to find and arrest the people organising it. Helping to improve facilities in France and the rest of Europe so the UK isn’t seen as somewhere an immigrant needs to travel to.
Basically, intelligent people aren’t fooled by meaningless slogans. Morons aren’t able to understand that deep problems require deep and complex solutions.
To be liberal requires empathy. A deep understanding of others and their situations and the knowledge that your own personal needs dont always automatically outweigh others.
Not strictly necessarily. For me, it comes down to logic, reason, and evidence.
I’m neurodivergent. This means that among some mild cognitive superpowers, I also have some significant weaknesses, such as an inability to understand or even recognize the inner workings of others. Essentially, the first half of your second sentence, above. That simply isn’t in my wheelhouse, no matter how hard I try. It’s analogous to asking a blind person to pick out the colour red.
But I reach the same place - the second half of the second sentence - by using logic and reason and evidence (usually via science) to come to an understanding of what is correct and good and right and how the needs of others simply don’t restrict my own personal needs in any way, and so carry equally as much importance and have all the same ability to be fulfilled without conflict. And because some of these people are disadvantaged or oppressed, it is my duty as a fucking human being to have their back whenever I have a decent opportunity to do so.
As an another neurodivergent lacking some essential emotional stuff: also being nice and kind to others is smart for maximizing your personal well-being. If people think nicely of you, they are more inclined to listen to you, and help you, and that gets you way further in life than just being a selfish prick people don’t want to be around. It is also logical to apply this not only to people immediately next to you, but to people far away as well, since being mean and evil towards them will not get you shit in the long run or might even make things worse, but it’s more likely it might benefit you later.
Or sure, you can be as mean as you want and might even end up some bitter asshole with all the money you could imagine if you have good enough start and lot of luck. But that’s pretty far from a good life in itself; you can get all your needs met a lot easier and even have nice people around you.My theory is that we never find the actually smart sociopaths (or psychopaths or whatever the term is here), since they’re intelligent enough to hide themselves with kindness
So interesting… to me (I don’t think my brain profile particularly gets in the way of my daily life) what you describe is the prefrontal cortex version of empathy, but empathy nontheless.
Salutations, fellow human :)
It is not just a question of emotional intelligence. As an autistic person, this is really a weak point in my statistics.
I’m simply not stupid enough ti fall for their ideas.
I agree, there are always occasions where things will be different as you demonstrate
Equating left with lib. Love it. Thanks, appropriator.
Stop sniffing your own farts and don’t look a gift horse in the mouth
Whats the gift here? Do you know the origin of that phrase?
What a well thought out response, perfectly formulated to start an informed discussion.
This is because reality itself has a strong left-leaning bias, and intelligence makes you encounter that a lot more as you interact with reality.
Sure, there are highly intelligent right-wingers, but intelligence only gives you the cognitive tools to discover reality, it doesn’t force you to use them. Just because a person is intelligent doesn’t mean they can’t slide off into wharrderp fantasy land.
Well there are also a lot of rich intelligent conservatives who are only there because it’s the best place from which to exploit everyone else for further gain.
Yep
Plenty of psychopaths and sociopaths amongst them
from a logical standpoint, conservatism is lacking any kind of sense or logic. I think it’s safe to assume that, in order to follow blindly an idea that crumbles as soon as you critically think about it, you have to lack the ability to critically think.
What I think tho is that it’s empathy what we should link to intelligence (or whatever you want to call the skill set that allows you to question and critizice everything).
Conservatism is a lack of empathy (which comes with a lack of said “intelligence”).
I know plenty of intelligent conservatives, but all them lack empathy for anyone outside their circle.
I don’t think they are intelligent if they are conservative. Conservatism is objectively bad for the collective. Supporting it means, ultimately, hurting the planet even to the point of making it uninhabitable. And if you think that you, with all the money in the world, can survive in a world like that, then you are not very intelligent.
They are selfish, and they might have some skills. But I don’t think they can be called intelligent when they lack the critical thinking skills to question the most basic concepts of conservatism.
I also believe this, and want to add that conservatism is mostly a combination of ideals based on grievances and a complete lack of critical thinking thinking as well.
There is literally always room for improvement, everyone knows this, everyone is taught this. Conservatism flies in it’s face. Conservatism says “good enough”. Conservatism says “I’m fine, thanks” without asking how you are.
Fuck IQ. Literally political stance is a better measurement of intelligence.
Wait…
I’m going to ignore all the issues with this study, and just be happy there are people out there finding the data that shows conservatism is stupidity.
That sounds pretty stupid to me :D
Still less stupid than “the bible says so!” when they clearly haven’t read it
Or anything…
All in good fun
I know, that’s why I added the “:D”
