• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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    2 days ago

    I think people are missing something pretty important here: this creates justification to use the US military against its citizens. Sure, it may just be to justify an invasion of Venezuela, but I suspect it’s more substantial than that. Saying the cartels have WMDs within the United States manufactures a threat that the military needs to fight. These “WMDs” are in every state and every city. They have manufactured a credible reason to use the military anywhere in the US against any group of people because it’s so pervasive.

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    Trump ain’t wrong here but those are just words. He’s already fueled a lot of drug deaths by his policies. You could say that eating too much processed food is a weapon of mass destruction as well, looking at the death stats ( at least the stats that are not hidden under the new régime ).

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    If this is a preamble to justify a new decade of carpet-bombing a third world country again: I sort of really hope it the final straw that finally gets NATO to intervene; treating the USA as a global threat. I know it’s just a pipe dream, but I can dream nonetheless

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      The best NATO can do is to help the constitutionalist side in a US civil war while fighting russia at the same time (who will try to provide support to the monarchist side, but it will be hard without controlling both coasts and Canada). Hah, maybe russia/China would try to smuggle help in through Mexico.

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    Faithless

    “Mass Destruction”

    Whether long range weapon or suicide bomber

    Wicked mind is a weapon of mass destruction

    Whether you’re soar away sun or BBC 1

    Misinformation is a weapon of mass destruction

    You could a Caucasian or a poor Asian

    Racism is a weapon of mass destruction

    Whether inflation or globalization

    Fear is a weapon of mass destruction

    Whether Halliburton or Enron or anyone

    Greed is a weapon of mass destruction

    We need to find courage, overcome

    Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction

    That was 2004

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    2 days ago

    Fentanyl is, if not the most common, a very common opiate used in hospitals, with virtue of being the cheapest. It’s overdose danger, is that a normal dose is of much smaller size, and then so is a fatal one. Usually GOP/CIA is pro addicts and overdoses because you need to vote GOP harder to punish them harder.

    Instead of lying for “easy to win wars so that the US/Trump can look tougher and/or perhaps cancel elections”, if opiates were a real issue, then programs including forced detox, but free voluntary detox too, A pharma incentive to make better non-addictive pain relief (aspirin/tylenol/advil), or making a deal with Taliban to produce “state opium farms” so that our hospital system (source of street fentanyl through theft) can go back to “safe opiates”… are all direct solutions to a stated problem instead of false tariffs and war excuses.

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      The entire war on drugs was created so they could make blacks and hippies felons so they couldn’t vote.

      It’s never been about the betterment of society.

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      Just by asking this question, you have sent several on-duty cops to the ER with rapid heart rates and extreme agitation, well-known signs of opiate overdose.

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        And yet, when used in medicine, the drug has to be ingested or injected. We can’t just rub it on the skin.

        Hmmm

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        You think that is a feat? My mere appearance is enough to break certain people’s minds, my mere existence sends certain people into a murderous, catatonic rages. The knowledge I have is such a threat to the government that if I utter it to enough people I risk a prison sentence.

        My sibling in sin, this is only a sample of my power.

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      That’s exactly why he’s doing this.

      False claim one; Fentanyl is a WMD

      False claim two; Fentanyl is coming from Venezuela.

      Enjoy twenty more years of quagmire America.

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        You’re missing the other countries he’s used fentanyl to harass: Mexico, Canada, and China.

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          At least those countries are at least associated with fenntanyl and its supply chain. Venezuela is not as far as I’m aware. So it makes the whole thing much more preposterous.

          And just to clarify, we should not be starting any wars over the drug trade since that is much more effectively combatted by dealing with the causes here at home. As long as there is demand there will always be supply.

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              I’m not saying Canada has a significant role. Venezuela just isn’t involved at all.

              “Based on seizure data and law enforcement investigation information, the consensus among U.S. authorities is that Mexico was the only significant source of illicit fentanyl and fentanyl analogues trafficked into the United States in 2024.”

              Source

              Venezuela isn’t even mentioned. Neither is Canada I suppose. And that is U.S. gov data. So not like they can claim they didn’t know.

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            You’re assuming he’s talking about using this as an excuse to invade Venezuela. I’m assuming he’ll use it as an excuse to invade Canada and Mexico. He’s already made up bullshit about how it’s pouring over our border, and he’s already threatened our country with annexation.

            • thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              If they invade it, the US won’t attempt to annex Mexico because giving Mexicans US citizenship will piss off Trump’s racist supporters.

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              There’s no way that happens. The oligarchs would lose money in the conflict. They gain money in a Venezuela conflict presumably. They have a lot of oil, like almost Saudi levels of oil, and there isnt enough trade with Venezuela for a war to upset the pocket books of the wealthy.

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                I’m sure the US could feel entitled to Canadian oil too, and then make up a justification afterwards.

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                  Yes, I agree in principle. However, the economics (well, monied interests) of it right now are not favorable. Too many people with money to make in US-Canadian trade would pull support for the politicians that push for it. That may change over time.

                  I think the idea was floated in the media by Mr Asshat because someone wanting the oil was interested in capturing it, but the push back from other donors was clear, and we dont hear them talking about it anymore other than to defend their “right” to float such ideas.

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        We just need to send Pete Hegseth to the UN with a little vial of enough fentanyl to kill a handful of horses.

        Bonus, make it real fentanyl and he probably won’t make it out of the bathroom alive.

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      I mean, it worked last time, and the only consequence was making billions of dollars in the process.

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        That and further tarnishing the states’ image on the world stage. But that’s a moot point now. Everyone can see they (the gov) are the baddies.

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          You are kidding yourself if you think the rest of the world thinks this isn’t because Americans are fucking ignorant moron fascists.

          You have a democratically elected government. This is what you chose.