• Cyberflunk@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    proton isn’t your friend I keep seeing people recommend protonmail like it’s some kind of activist infrastructure and it’s starting to bug me remember in 2021 when they handed over a french climate activist’s IP to the cops? swiss court order, data went through europol, person got arrested. this was while their website was still implying they couldn’t log you. they quietly changed the wording after they got caught and like… switzerland isn’t what people think it is. they have treaties with the US and EU, they share intelligence, their whole “neutrality” thing has always been about protecting money, not people. ask any dictator who parked their cash there also proton took VC money. it’s not a co-op, it’s not worker owned, it’s a company that sells privacy as a product. which means eventually the investors are going to want their returns and something’s gotta give none of this means “don’t use it” - it’s still better than google. but e2ee doesn’t hide metadata and metadata is often enough. your threat model matters. a corporation is not going to protect you from the state, ever

    • 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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      20 days ago

      Nobody is your friend… but at least proton isnt logging your data and selling ads into your inbox… that’s good enough for me…

      Check your threat model… 90% of people arent doing direct action that needs protection from nation states… and proton isnt big enough to protect you from nation states. (pretty sure they tell you that they have to comply with legal, swiss laws)

      Stop trying to scare people into going back to gmail… there will always be flaws in proton/tuta/whatever mail service…

      Go try running your own email if you truly need perfect privacy and anonymity