Did proton fire Andy yet? Fucking Nazi bootlicker
People are still using Protonmail when there’s Fastmail?
Why would someone use Fastmail when there’s protonmail?
Because it’s fast
Well you got me there.
AND, it’s mail. What’s not to like?
Yes!! I remember submitting feedback about this being a must have feature ages ago. Excited to get it
With all these web based office suites popping up, I wonder if anybody needs these? It seems like a solution pushed onto us that nobody asked for. Everybody I know is still using MS Office or Libreoffice and everybody seems to agree that office on mobile devices sucks.
I’ve been wanting a sheets alternative and I really do not like libre office. This is huge
There’s also Collabora Office
Proton drive on Linux
Good luck.
If Excel ever gets replaced, then we know that we overcame Microsoft.
I’m actually pretty excited to have another product to try to motivate friends and family to leave Google behind. Maybe this will do it.
I’ve managed entirely on Google Sheets for years now. And I was a really big fan of Excel. It was never viable for me to rely on Windows to be everywhere I need to be, and the functionality gap closed steadily over the years to the point where the benefits of it being on the web now overwhelm the feature gap. Being free helps too, especially as Excel has gone through various pricing and bundling contortions over the years. Someone might tell me here that it’s now completely free but can I really be blamed for tuning out Microsoft years ago?
Good news! Unfortunately I’m not sold on having to have a bridge to access their email using Thinderbird, so I’m not subscribing Proton Unlimited “suite”. Also no working Linux client for Proton Drive (rclone’s is unmaintained and not working).
It is technically impossible at the moment to keep your emails end-to-end encrypted and not have to use a bridge for your client of choice. It will only be possible if your client of choice partners with Proton to integrate them, or if a standard for e2e encrypted emails pops up and both Proton and your client adopt it.
Wait, you can’t access it via IMAP?
Problem is the e2e encryption. The bridge basically decrypts your emails and makes them locally accessible.
I actually just want them to make proton drive work on Linux. That’s all I need.
I comment this on many of their LinkedIn posts. I think they’ve blocked me at this point
People still use LinkedIn? I thought it was just ai bots using LinkedIn.
Holy shit, just give me shareable calendars!
Or searchable email bodies…on my phone. Which is where I’d need it most.
Does if have FILTER, array formulas, spill zones, MAP, data tables, query engines, SQL engine etc etc?
To compete with Word: Easy. To compete with Excel: Very, very difficult (pretty much only Google Sheets have managed).
90% of users probably just need a glorified table with SUM
In a personal context, agreed. In a business context, I completely disagree. Analysts, finance, operations etc all have much more complex requirements.
It’s not competing with word, it’s competing with Google Sheets.
Google Sheets is competing with Excel. Proton Sheets is competing with Google Sheets. So Proton Sheets is competing with Excel.
I used Word as a comparative example to say that parts of the office/docs suite are easy to compete with (there’s only so may things a word processor can do), while others (like Google Sheets or Excel, whichever order you prefer) is incredibly difficult to compete with; a formatting error on import of a Word doc is acceptable. An unsupported formula ruins the entire thing.
this ia cool, but when proton tasks and proton notes
They bought Standard Notes, so it’s Protons notes now, in some sense
I see… would be cool if they actually included it in their suite though. Maybe in the future?
https://proton.me/blog/proton-standard-notes-join-forces
In the coming months, we hope to find ways to make Standard Notes more easily accessible to the Proton community
But that post was written 1.5 years ago lol
proton isn’t your friend I keep seeing people recommend protonmail like it’s some kind of activist infrastructure and it’s starting to bug me remember in 2021 when they handed over a french climate activist’s IP to the cops? swiss court order, data went through europol, person got arrested. this was while their website was still implying they couldn’t log you. they quietly changed the wording after they got caught and like… switzerland isn’t what people think it is. they have treaties with the US and EU, they share intelligence, their whole “neutrality” thing has always been about protecting money, not people. ask any dictator who parked their cash there also proton took VC money. it’s not a co-op, it’s not worker owned, it’s a company that sells privacy as a product. which means eventually the investors are going to want their returns and something’s gotta give none of this means “don’t use it” - it’s still better than google. but e2ee doesn’t hide metadata and metadata is often enough. your threat model matters. a corporation is not going to protect you from the state, ever
Nobody is your friend… but at least proton isnt logging your data and selling ads into your inbox… that’s good enough for me…
Check your threat model… 90% of people arent doing direct action that needs protection from nation states… and proton isnt big enough to protect you from nation states. (pretty sure they tell you that they have to comply with legal, swiss laws)
Stop trying to scare people into going back to gmail… there will always be flaws in proton/tuta/whatever mail service…
Go try running your own email if you truly need perfect privacy and anonymity
