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If Iran doesn’t FULLY OPEN, WITHOUT THREAT, the Strait of Hormuz, within 48 HOURS from this exact point in time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various POWER PLANTS, STARTING WITH THE BIGGEST ONE FIRST! Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP

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Giving out an ultimatum to blow up civilian infrastructure is a war crime right

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    Is trump threatening all of this because he brutally raped those girls? You call that presidential?

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    As a US citizen I wonder if this is how 1930s Germans felt?

    Well except a large portion of us feel the orange shit gibbon is a moron, surrounded by sycophantic morons and kakistocrats.

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      I wonder how it feels to be a holocaust survivour in the Untied States right now. I don’t know how many holocaust survivours are left, they’re all really old by now. Just imagine surviving the concentration camps and moving to the Untied States where things are peaceful by comparison. And then, at the end of your life, right before you die, you watch the Untied States fall to a new generation of nazis, watch the same horrible patterns repeating all over again

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      The idea that Hitler was some sort of genius supervillain is a myth mostly propagated by movies and video games. It’s a shame, because I think this notion made it more difficult for many people to understand what trump was as he was clawing at power.

      In reality, Hitler was an incompetent moron, and the similarities with trump are uncanny.

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      And a large portion of Germans also felt that hitler was a moron, surrounded by sycophantic morons and kakistocrats.

      Actualt as the nazi party never won the majority of seats the us is actually more complainant to the current regime.

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      brainrot through social media / smartphones, coupled with propaganda.

      We have the brainrot already in Europe - if our propaganda were as strong, we’d be just as bad, sadly.

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        We spent decades destroying our education system and you didn’t even mention it, do our efforts mean nothing to you?

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        Not true, the US is in the end game stage of capitalism and is run like one big corporation. Only numbers matters. Europe never was like this

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          The anglo world has been living under Murdoch’s propaganda for decades. He may be old and dying, but his family will likely do the same here in Europe. It’ll take decades, but it’ll happen.

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          While I don’t agree, your point and my observation do not contradict each other.

          As much as I despise what’s normal in Magastan, telling ourselves we are in any way more smart or ethical in Europe is precisely how we run our bus off the same cliff.

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            I meant that in today’s Europe, particularly Western Europe, there isn’t the same cultural attachment to exceptionalism. There’s also no existential drive to dominate like there is in the US. There’s more balance, collaboration, and people value collective progress not just individual “supremacy”. We’re all stupid

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              I meant that in today’s Europe, particularly Western Europe, there isn’t the same cultural attachment to exceptionalism

              True. But again - with enough propaganda, it could be. And our shitheads in basically all of the European governments are hard at work to re-establish totalitarian regimes.

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    Giving out an ultimatum to blow up civilian infrastructure is a war crime right

    Sadly, the world isn’t going to so anything about it. The World has more or less greenlit Israel’s genocide. If anything the world is going to run and support the US in reopening the Strait to allow the flow of oil.

    The oil must flow.

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      They’re not even beginning to understand. They still think we’re winning. :(

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        Saw that diesel in my area hit $6.99 a gallon. Is this winning?

        I suppose it can feel that way if you’re an EV owner and don’t rely on Diesel (or dirtier versions of diesel) to heat your house.

        Of course, in my semi-rural area, a bunch of the MAGA voters drive huge, lifted diesel trucks that burn as inefficiently as possible (so that they can roll coal on Priuses and bikers) and also have 1950’s oil furnaces that basically burn dirty diesel. I wonder how long they’ll keep lying to themselves about winning.

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    Fucking USA wars. Would he make such a big war, and threaten them with nuclear obliteration, if they weren’t on the other side of the globe? No. Cowards.

    And yes, many Iranian power plants are nuclear. Nice of you to not mention that, asshole potus.

    Of course the fallout would still be bad - not only for US “allies” in Europe but also in the US. But realizing that would require some mental effort so it doesn’t count.

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    This is a stated intent to destroy, or set in motion events that will destroy, much of the oil and power infrastructure in several countries .

    I really hope this is only a manipulation of the markets , because otherwise things will never be the same.

    Americans have a duty to make this not happen

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        Under 32% of Americans voted for this to happen.

        Most Americans didn’t give enough of a shit to vote at all. It’s really fucking bad here. This society has been sick for my entire existence, and the toxicity of it is vastly understated. People are miserable here, and stressed too the point of self-preservation as a norm.

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        I don’t think Americans ever got a choice in the matter. Trump ran as an anti war candidate, about a third of Trump supporters do not support this war, and the majority of Americans are opposed to it.

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          None of that matters. The fact is that obese orange thing still got elected by the direct or indirect actions of voting for, or ‘protesting’ by not voting at all.

          Even if you take away all the paedophilia ‘accusations’ ;⁠-⁠);⁠-⁠), and the bankruptcies and corruption etc etc etc and then solely go with what that fat cunt did during the first term then that should be enough for any intelligent person to not vote for that thing again. But no, that’s just too much for the rest of the fucking world to ask for!!

          I don’t give a shit what the average american is opposed to when the rest of the world have to also suffer the consequences of electing in a dementia riddled, warmongering, tyrannical old twat with the temperament and bowel habits of a tantrumming toddler.

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            Trump voters and the non voters deserve to get the third degree burns. The rest of us are the poor fuckers on the crashing airplane with them.

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            Even if you take away all the paedophilia ‘accusations’

            At this point you can just say “the fact that he’s a pedophile”

            Also, I feel like you’re attributing too many grandiose-in-a-bad-way adjectives to him. He’s just a spoiled unloved rich kid with a two digit IQ who has managed to surround himself with two digit IQ lackies.

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            Yes all of that matters. My point is that US democracy is a sham. There have been plenty of studies that show US policy is dictated almost exclusively by the interests of the wealthy and not the interests of the population at large. Trump is symptom of this mess.

            Americans are frustrated at their current conditions but they have no tools to understand why they suffer. The American education system is full of propaganda and so is their corporate run media. The wealthy capitalists that control the US are okay with Americans picking Trump as an acceptable outlet for their frustrations. The alternative to that would be real left wing policy and they can’t accept that.

            Also recognize, the world suffered under democrats as well. Obama turned Libya into a perpetual war zone and Biden supported one of the most well documented genocides of our time. It’s a hubristic empire run by pedophiles and pedophile enablers and it never mattered what the people really wanted.

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            Well, you better keep fighting the good fight and accusing all Americans, including all those who are trying to help.

            Trump loves you for that. You are a great asset to MAGA.

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          Looking back at the process to evaluate our leaders makes this statement pop. A debate with 5 minute responses to world challenges where the candidates can talk over each other? Wtf are we even doing.

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        People supporting him is not nearly as important as who can stop it in the next day

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      He’s been given such a blank check within the US that he is now completely deluded that he has fiat power around the world. He also thinks the military can force anything he wants to happen.

      He’s fucking around, but I have my doubts that he has the requisite intelligence to actually, truly find out. If history is any guide, he will simply continue to fuck around.

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      “Americans have a duty to make this not happen.”

      What does this even mean? Shall I go throw molotov cocktails at my local California city hall - a city hall full of people that oppose what Trump is doing?

      People need to understand that the United States of America is the third largest country by landmass in the world. We have massive protests here, and a huge one is going to happen next weekend… But it won’t force Trump to do, or refrain from doing, anything on the world stage.

      Our government is completely captured by a single party that is both very stupid, and very evil. We have a way out of this in November, but only if the GOP doesn’t successfully upend democracy in that election.

      Until then, the grand majority of Americans that want this to end are in the same boat as any and all foreigners that want it to end. Our “power” is only available in election cycles.

      The next election is predicted to be a blood bath for Trump, too. He’s the most unpopular president in living memory right now.