This is literally the only reason to fork over cash to spotify, are they insane?
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Is this news site Peter Thiels?
It’s like reddit for techbros that gush about the latest fads and startups. Not sure who owns it, but it’s probably the worst venture capitalists. The moderation is very heavy against anyone that becomes even slightly politically aware.
Ycombinator is peter thiel. This is a news aggregator and social media site housed in his network. Fucking losers.
Amazon does it, YouTube does it. Everyone will do it eventually. Greed has no threshold
YouTube does not do that, unless you’re referring to sponsorships which are mostly handled and organized and introduced to the viewer apart from YouTube’s meddling.
It has the threshold its victims allow by maintaining a relationship with the greedy.
I posted this when Youtube was doing it by ‘mistake’ too…
If you are paying to not receive ads, and you receive an ad by mistake, they should pay you whatever they earned on the ad. Now… I doubt they’ll actually pay you dollars, but lets say at minimum 1 day of free extended service per ad, but if they earn more than 1 days worth via the ad, then it should be whatever that is.
From HN comments:
This is just the latest in a series of vibe-coding caused bugs, Spotify famously claimed their best devs were no longer writing any of their own code:
I went back to Winamp last year and don’t regret it at all.
Where do you get the media from, though
Remember CDs? Actually owning stuff?
Your local library should rent CD’s. Rent 'em and rip 'em into mp3’s and BOOM!, Robert’s your dad’s brother.
Behold the Atlantean and their mastery of laser decoding mechanisms!
Yarr matey!
Took them longer than I expected.
And then they wonder why everyone is fixing the hulls of their ships and getting new sails.
Edit: whats family plan these days? 20€/month? My local record shop has new albums for 20€. I’d guess you can find a lot of good stuff on sale for 10€. So might as well buy an album or two per month. In a year you’d already have 12-24 albums. You can make a decent playlist out of those. Do that for a few years and you have a excellent music collection that lasts decades. Spotify is stupid and pointless if you really think about it.
Well, not really. I’ve discovered a ton of music in the past couple years I never would have bought or even had access to, without streaming. But Spotify does suck, I much prefer YouTube Music, which comes with Premium.
I should really learn to not make these sort of ultimatum type statements.
Of course there’s some good things about it. But I’ve never been a spotify user, I’ve discovered a whole lot of stuff through things like last.fm, youtube and just music themed internet forums and IRC etc. So I wont argue that you can’t find stuff through spotify, but I’ll say that there are other ways to discover things, making spotify not necessary but helpful in that regard.
Or self hosting their own Jellyfin
It’s the same thing.
A music collection on your harddive is a joy for you personally for ever
A music collection on a VPS hosting a Jellyfin with accounts for your family and friends is a joy forever for all your family and friends (as long as you pay the hosting fees)
A music collection on your harddive is a joy for you personally for ever
As long as you take care of backups
The hard drive that I bought last year and need for backing up has doubled in price. $500 fucking for 22TB… I have no clue what to do now…
Some consolation that most if not all of your music is backed up on the internet.
Instead of paying monthly for a VPS you could get a mini PC from eBay for 100 dollars and host it yourself
I’ve been saying that for years. Now I have about 250 albums drm-free on Bandcamp. A good chunk of that money went to the people making the music, too.
I know there are people out there paying a subscription to Spotify who listen to the same dozen albums over and over, too.
Remember, only shop on Bandcamp Fridays, when all the money goes to the artists. The corporate owners are not playing nice with the employee union.
Yup exactly. Since I still pirate, I haven’t bought albums very actively, only here and there but I have about 120-130 albums in my shelf. I have a friend who uses spotify, he has connected it to Last.fm. I once checked and he’s been scrobbling since 2016… he has 80 unique albums on the list there. Seems like a waste of money, but hey, at least its not my money.
1.: I divide the payment of Family across 3 members.
2.: I listen to so many songs individually, it would bankrupt me to buy every single song individually or the full album.
3.: I’ll buy an album (2nd hand discogs (so good)/ebay, digitally on wherever or bandcamp). If I don’t like the music as much or the buying process is annoying, I’ll pirate the song.So yeah. It depends.
Yeah, but Spotify is and always has been a really poorly designed app. Google sucks in a lot of ways, but YouTube Music is a great platform.
Depends on how you use it.
I like it and it works for what I need from it.
Signs your business model has truly failed.
They alll fail when forever gain growth is the expectation.
The minute I have ads in my paid subscription it’s a cancel
Yeah same here, I’ve been procrastinating while I gradually build my collection of mp3s/flacs, but the second I hear an ad on Spotify I’m done.
Exactly why I canceled Amazon Prime. 100% would recommend canceling. I don’t miss it.
Likewise. I’ve been putting off setting up a Soulseek+Navidrome stack on my home server. I’m sure there’s a way to integrate ListenBrainz suggestions too. First ad I hear, I’m doing it.
I think you can integrate lidarr into SoulSeek too.
Soulseek for the win what is navidrome, i’m unfamiliar.
It’s a self-hosted music streaming server. Basically a build-your-own-Spotify. Available as a Docker image.
Hell yeah, today is the day
I use Navidrome and scrobble to ListenBrainz and Last.fm for suggestions. I’ve recently learnt about Sonobarr but haven’t tried it yet.
It’s not as seamless as playing a song/artist station on spotify or just letting it decide what to continue with at the end of a playlist, but it’s also free (in both ways!).
Thanks a lot for the tips!
Can’t talk about navidrome, but jellyfin has a listenbrainz plugin :)
I use Jellyfin for video but it doesn’t strike me as the best for audio…
Time to switch to Qobuz then. Goodbye Spotify.
I buy my music from the artists as directly as possible via Band Camp.
Qobuz, Tidal, Deezer.
Nicotine+, qmmp
Deezer was playing ICE recruitment ads last year. I think it’s important for people to know so they can make a more informed decision.
Just recently signed up for Qobuz. I’m planning on purchasing albums as I go along so at least I’m left with something the day I decide to quit.
Fun fact, there are tools to rip FLAC files of music you stream on qobuz so you can build up your music hoard
I would prefer they just make their apps good.
But it’s kind of bizarre that daily/weekly playlists are only in app.
And the radio function! They really should update their UI.
I respect that, I personally prefer to prepare for the inevitable rugpull that ever software as a service company does
Worst mobile app on the planet with SO many bugs, but dammit if they aren’t a clean platform otherwise.
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I’m using Tidal, but i can’t say i really like it. They seem to randomly decide what songs and artists are not available, and their search function is really bad.
I used Tidal for a few months, then found out it had silently removed ~10% of my music from my “liked” list. Completely unacceptable. They should at least keep a list of titles so I can go back and fix it. People say all services do this, but I’ve been keeping an eye on it and Spotify hasn’t done it since I hopped back.
Qobuz was painful to use and new music discovery was hopeless. No idea if they were removing tracks too.
Bandcamp seems cool, but I prefer to listen to music via song-based-radios, so that’s a no go.
Not sure what I’ll do if I have to drop Spotify again over ads.
That’s not up to the streaming service but the record company.
Personally I switched from Tidal to Qobuz this year and I like it much better.
That’s not up to the streaming service but the record company.
That doesn’t really matter for the end user as they’re in a relationship with the streamer not the record companies. I hate this drive to obfuscate responsibility in corporate America.
Dude, you are the one obfuscating.
Qobuz and Deezer are French, Tidal was originally Norwegian, Spotify was originally Swedish and record companies are from all over the world.
If record companies make exclusive deals with platforms for some releases and pull distribution for others, then blaming the streaming services excluded is just plain fucking stupid.
Now I have a problem with this statement in a vacuum.
Zero: I am based in Germany. So not as many dystopian laws and decisions as in the USA
First: Yes, Spotify bad, Hooray Jellyfin, ripping CDs and owning the media you have. Also good for the artists.
Second: I had ads played to me. But it only happened on podcasts.
Third: I had talked to the Spotify support: https://imgur.com/a/Ulis7Oe
(TLDR: Podcast publishers (e.g. LTT with their WANshow or Dallas Taylor with 20 Thousand Hertz) can decide if they want to play ads. They happened to me inbetween episodes)So yeah. Now it would be very interesting what this random person encountered where.
My wife and daughter had heard ads sparingly and they only listen to music. I assumed it was some sort of bug because it is very infrequent, but with today’s corps I should probably invoke the inverse of Hanlon’s Razor and just assume malice.
Hanlon's RazorWhose Hanlon and why do you need his razor? It’s more hygienic to buy one from the storeIn case you don’t actually know what it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon’s_razor
