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Gen. Dan Caine, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, repeatedly warned Trump that Iran would likely disrupt the Strait of Hormuz in response to a U.S. attack, according to a new report in the Wall Street Journal.
Trump, 79, told his administration that he thought Iran would capitulate to the U.S. before it closed the Strait, adding that even if the Strait was threatened, the U.S. military could handle it.
I’m hoping that the military leadership is starting to realize that they WILL have to forcefully remove Trump, if anything to protect the safety and security of the country. Also the PRIMARY purpose of the US Armed forces is:
- To support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic.
Not one fucking word about protecting pedos or presidents.
You mean the military that’s commanded by people who were telling their troops that Trump was sent by God to protect Israel? Yeah, I wouldn’t get your hopes up.
Remember, within the first month of this term, he fired all the 5-star generals and other military leadership who would have had the wherewithal to pull this off.
You say “fired all the five star generals”, I say “created new leadership opportunities for disgruntled veterans”.
America is going to end up with two armies, one full of soldiers and one full of sycophants and idiots. Boy, this doesn’t sound familiar or anything, does it?
It would not be a difficult math problem nor a stretch to calculate and conclude that he is a domestic enemy.
Only an American would ever possibly hope for a military coup… I know you guys don’t have a lot of history, but if that happened, it would be much, much worse than Trump.
They’ve already been purged, dude.
This asshole seems incapable of humiliation.
He should be ashamed to even show up in public given what he’s done and what a dumbass he is, but I see him in front of cameras nearly daily, mugging and gesturing and holding forth, often for very long periods of time.
Being shameless is his superpower. I suspect it’s what makes him so appealing to MAGA.
“He says what I’m thinking!” (and gets away with it - that’s the thing that really sends a tingle up their legs - they have wet dreams about being able to say and do the sorts of things that PEDOnald did all his life and had no consequences for it)
His neurons have rotten and fallen out of his ears, he doesn’t have the brain capacity to be humiliated
I think even at 20, he didn’t really have to ever face real, grinding humiliation. Except for maybe from his parents.
I think he and his cuckservative cult members all just tell themselves that anything that might be humiliating to him is just someone else having what they call “TDS”.
This minorfucker and his DUI hire didn’t calculate shit. Probably just type into Grok for a intelligence assessment and went with it.
They got railroaded by Bibi. It was blatantly obvious.
Do you mean caught in a honey trap?
it’s so plain that epstein was running a kompromat factory and trump’s everywhere in it. hope it gets reflected in the histories.
hope there’s enough of a civilization to record history…
I feel like even Grok would have made better decisions than these morons.
How does anyone still listen to him? Every decision he’s ever made has not come from a place of intelligence, reason or foresight, but just what he feels at that moment.
A combination of: the people in positions of power stand to benefit personally for decisions that are bad for everyone else, and a failure of the people to hold him to account (which is itself caused by a mix of apathy, ignorance, and hatred).
It’s only surprising if you have taken the competence and stability demonstrated over the last 70 years for granted.
There are a whole lot of dumbasses out there would rather have a complete idiot in power rather than someone that makes them feel stupid, or, in other words, is clearly smarter, more educated, and more capable than they are.
It’s an infuriating trait and I don’t understand it at all.
I could do a better job than this idiot, and I am self-aware and smart enough to realize I have no business being anywhere near that kind of job. I happen to want people far smarter, more experienced, more education, and more wisdom than myself in there. I don’t feel smaller by having someone better than me in there.
This is about the only job I can think of where there are certain types of idiots that cast about for non-experts for that role. You don’t people agitating to have “outsiders” in their sportsball team. You don’t see them calling for things like “term limits” on sports, either. Same for a whole host of occupations. People don’t put out ads for positions at companies seeking someone with zero experience, but who makes them feel good about their own capabilities in comparison.
But, for a role that We, The People hire for, we have this incredibly bizarre and stupid selection criteria - dumb things that include “wanting to have a beer with them”, or “running the country like a business”. Things like intelligence, capability, education, wisdom, and experience don’t seem to really matter for this hiring process.
The funny thing is that that actually makes you very good for the job, or at least it’s major part of it. A leader of anything from a company to a small work team needs to be the kind of person who can assemble teams of experts and give them the resources they need to succeed.
Which part? The part about wanting to surround yourself with people smarter than yourself?
Ye.
100%: that’s the kind of leader that tends to get nearly unswerving (real) loyalty and admiration from their team, too.
I’ve seen plenty of weak leadership in both private sector and in the government in my personal work life, and when you see someone that is secure enough to be humble enough to seek out and value those that are better than them at things is something to truly treasure. If they don’t have someone sabotaging them from above, that team is often a sight to behold in how much they can accomplish.
Weak leadership usually seeks out yes-men, will hire their friends, fraternity brothers, and former co-workers even when it makes no sense - will even engage in nepotism - in order to get people that will rubber stamp their activities
I could do a better job than this idiot, and I am self-aware and smart enough to realize I have no business being anywhere near that kind of job. I happen to want people far smarter, more experienced, more education, and more wisdom than myself in there. I don’t feel smaller by having someone better than me in there.
You got my vote!
Ha ha! No way I’d ever win even a low-level office; I’m not much for the small talk, I am a terrible speaker, and not great at pressing of the flesh and so on.
Also, I really have no business doing such work - I’m not very great at time management, my people management skills are subpar, and my in-person/on the spot memory is trash. I have no background in law or politics, either.
He’s made a looot of $$$ from his decisions.
He is winning, unfortunately.
I think when you’re born with that much money, you don’t tend to lose it easily. His father insulated him from his stupid decisions. Now he’s got a cult of personality behind him and is way further insulated from his stupidity. He’s failed upwards his whole life because he’s privileged.
I mean, he was just a millionaire real estate developer. He successfully infiltrated the US executive branch and used it strategically to become a billionaire.
He was given $500 million from his dad. When you have that much money, you point at stuff you want to happen and people you pay make it happen. He’s been a grifter his whole life and takes advantage of people even more stupid than he is. The only difference now is that it seems there’s more of those stupid people in his orbit that he can feed off of.
You might need to renegotiate how to define winning to fully encapsulate what Trump is doing.
Trump, and all other Boomers, seemed to have figured out that they are going to die. And they, like the baby pharaohs that they have become, want their slaves and animals and civilization to die with them so that no one can enjoy the life the pharaohs have to leave behind.
Trump is trying the greatest Pyrrhic victory of all time. Which no matter what is still a loss.
We are rapidly approaching the decision point between fighting and dying for Trump and hesgeth in Iran or fighting in Washington for ourselves.
Fighting in Washington was always on the table and it is clear by now that there are no takers.
We are waiting for the Midterms. There is no sense in blowing up America now, when we still have a couple of legal options left. If we get through the Midterms and 2028, we might be able to rebuild.
But if they somehow manage to cheat their way out of the Midterm bloodbath, there will be serious repercussions, and if they steal the 2028 election, it’s all over. Then we have nothing to lose, and it’s Civil War.
Also, if they cancel/suspend an election. We’ve never done that in American history, not even during the Civil War. That is a bright red line, that must not be crossed. If he announces that elections are cancelled, then we no longer have a democracy, America is dead, and it’s Civil War.
We are waiting for the Midterms. There is no sense in blowing up America now, when we still have a couple of legal options left. If we get through the Midterms and 2028, we might be able to rebuild.
I wonder how many foreigners you guys are willing to sacrifice. You know that without the US’ support, the genocide in Gaza would not be possible, right?
The worst people in the world have taken control of our country. The good citizens of America are trying desperately to take it back, and we will, one way or another.
And when we do, we are going to INSIST that this country move decisively in a better direction. No more business as usual. After what we’ve been through, and put the world through, it will be time for serious reform in every way.
I wish the Democrats would have a clear agenda on that. A few fundamental fixes to the system to prevent another decent into lawlessness (thins like elections on a Sunday, no corporate money in politics, strong demonopolisation, especially in media,…). But I haven’t seen anything “radical” from them yet.
Better not wear black when talking like that.
Doing nothing might have its merits.
Let the Islamacists and American imperialists fight it out.
Work to cushion yourselves. Spring is 6 days away. more sun for solar and gardening—better cycling weather too.
Bush had a stupid war in Iraq about 20 years ago.
Trump is having a stupid war in Iran.
Perhaps when stupid Americans vote another idiot as GOP President, in 10 to 20 years (we might even have a President Vance), America will get it’s ass kicked by yet another country fighting asymmetrically.
How can it be miscalculated when it wasn’t even calculated at all to begin with?
He’s playing 4D Monopoly…
He has his hand in the Treasury.
4D Chutes and Ladders
1D Tic-Tac-Toe
We fucking got our asses kicked in smaller countries like Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
Who would have thought the US could win against Iran?
The biggest mistake they made was thinking Iran is like Iraq, Syria, or Afghanistan—countries characterized by dictatorship or clannism/tribalism, where the populations were already divided. Although it is an Islamic Republic, Iran operates as a republic with regular elections where citizens vote for government officials. This is a long-established system that maintains a degree of popular support. Unlike those other states, where it was easier for outside forces to support separatists, the current situation has instead bolstered the government’s narrative. They have effectively managed to convince many that the government was telling the truth about the U.S. and Israel intending to destroy Iran. Ultimately, this has united a large portion of the population behind the state. I fear it will be a long conflict unless something fundamental changes.
Although it is an Islamic Republic, Iran operates as a republic with regular elections where citizens vote for government officials.
Candidates for office are vetted by a government committee before they can run. It’s a one-party state. Even the Demopublican virtual uniparty in the US is a far more open system. And the Islamic Republic is almost uniformly hated by the Iranian people, most of whom were born after Khomeini seized power.
I’m not in any way implying that US bombing or invasion is going to help the pro-democracy forces in Iran. If anything, it’ll give the mullahs the external threat that they need in order to cling onto power even longer.
While the mechanisms obviously differ, candidate vetting and political gatekeeping are structural realities in the U.S. system as well. Instead of a Guardian Council, the U.S. relies on immense financial barriers—where winning a Senate seat averages over $20 million—and restrictive ballot access laws that effectively lock out third parties. Therefore, arguing that one system is “open” and the other is “closed” is often an apples-to-oranges comparison that ignores how power is actually brokered. Furthermore, not every country requires a Western-style liberal democracy to maintain a stable and cohesive existence.
As for the claim that the government is “uniformly hated” by the Iranian people: if that were entirely true, who is keeping the state functioning? A massive state apparatus cannot survive for four decades under intense external pressure solely through coercion; it requires a substantial base of active domestic support. The state is backed by millions of active Basij members and a vast network of state economic foundations (Bonyads) that employ and provide social welfare for millions more. Even in recent elections with historically low turnout, roughly 25 million Iranians still participated.
The narrative that the population is a monolith of dissent often stems from the grievances of the Iranian diaspora, who fled the country during the Islamic revolution some 40 years ago. While their perspectives are part of the story, they do not necessarily reflect the complex realities of the 88 million people currently living inside the country. For example, Iranian Azerbaijani Turks—the country’s largest ethnic minority, numbering roughly 20 million—have shown no widespread intention of mounting a separatist revolt. They are deeply integrated into Iran’s economic and political elite (the Supreme Leader himself is of Azerbaijani descent) and share the state’s Shia identity. This integration alone contradicts the idea of a nation on the verge of internal collapse due to the people’s hatred of their government.
In the long run, it is difficult to predict how the population will react to the scarcity of food and basic needs. However, that does not change the fact that there has been a united domestic response to recent attacks—a level of support for the Iranian government that was clearly not anticipated by either the U.S. or Israel.
Ultimately, unless it is in self-defense, war is murder. I wish peace and prosperity for all.
jfc what fucking president says “bombing the hell out of the shoreline”. This isn’t call of duty with your buddies dumbass
Dipshit dips shit.
Trump, 79, told his administration that he thought Iran would capitulate to the U.S. before it closed the Strait, adding that even if the Strait was threatened, the U.S. military could handle it
Hitler, forcing his experienced Generals to follow his own incompetent strategies.
At least some of those generals tried to blow him up.
At least Hitler didn’t chicken out of serving in a war like the orange Russian cum rag.
Woah … Hitler doesnt get to have redeeming qualities. Im serious – nothing about Hitler is a brightside.
Well I did hear he was the one who killed Hitler.
Trump’s Humiliating War Miscalculation Exposed
and Trump not going to Vietnam is a good thing: if only more Americans got out of going.
I stood up in front of a draft board in my ultra-conservative home town and told them why I was a conscientious objector. They asked me some tough questions, I answered them as best I could, and they gave me CO status.
No lying was needed. Trump didn’t have the guts to stand up and say he opposed the war. He didn’t have the guts to leave the country. He just didn’t want to go fight himself, because he was (and is) a fucking coward.
But it ain’t me. I ain’t no millionaire’s son. And if that draft board had decided the other way, I’d probably have ended up raising alpacas in British Columbia like some of my friends did.
I don’t blame any one for avoiding that abomination of a war. Anyone who resisted it in any way was doing their patriotic duty.
What I have a problem with, are those who avoided service themselves, only to grow up to launch wars to send the next generation to war.
Chicken Hawks are the lowest form of politician.
Bad people can have good qualities just like good people can have bad qualities, failing to aknowledge this is failing to know your enemy.
The only good quality that I see in Trump is his mortality.
He’s a good showman, its basically the cornerstone of his current success, he may not appeal to you or me but he has that used car salesman, carny barker style energy that really appeals to a certain kind of person.
I love Hegseth’s response. It’s handled. We’re taking care of it. So don’t worry about it.
Like dude bro, they’re not “worried about it,” in their job capacity as reporters, they are asking you about it because it’s their job.
This isn’t like “who’s gonna load the dishwasher?” “Don’t worry about it, I’ve got it covered.”
Yeah, just trust the drunken talk-show host who has almost as many petty obsessions as Trump does and has shown no signs of any character traits besides vanity and bloodthirstiness.
What’s funny is they got into this mess solely by their own crass ignorance. I’m persuaded they thought it would be like Syria or other asymmetrical wars they fought. Well though luck dipshits, Iran is a whole other kind of beast.
They already shit their pants in Afghanistan despite it being literally nicknamed “the graveyard of empires”. But Iran is not that, Iran is its own empire and has been for thousands of years. Good luck trying to get Elamites and Medes to bend the knee. You’re not the first to try.
Iran has as unforgiving a landscape as Afghanistan, a population half again as large, and is not a bottom-of-the-heap, destitute basket case of a country. They may hate the mullahs, but that’ll be nothing compared to the hatred they have for a foreign aggressor.
Well though luck dipshits, Iran is a whole other kind of beast.
If only every single person who knew anything at all about Iran had tried to tell them this repeatedly for years and years.
Isn’t that kind of their signature moves? Trying something that sounds kinda sorta like common sense but it’s profoundly stupid or has already failed countless times before…
Every policy Trump has is the kind of shite that some drunken asshole at a bar trots out, usually preferenced with “Why don’t we just…”
that’s the kind of attitude i loathe in real life. “I’ve thought about it for 5 minutes and reached a hasty conclusion and everyone is stupid for not having thought of it”, except everybody has thought of it minute 1, some have even tried it, and we know it doesn’t work.
…and then later saying, with zero hint of self-awareness, that “nobody knew that [issue] could be so complicated”
Who would’a thunk ?
This is an extremely weird take. Iran/Persia and its predecessors have been conquered many times. As far back as Alexander and as recently as WW2 with the Arabs, Turks, Mongols all taking control of it in between. Iran’s culture is as unique as it is because of all the ethnic admixture, not due to some imagined unbroken ancestry from Elam.
You’re right to point that out it’s shady to conflate a modern nation with some past empire within its borders, i didn’t mean it like that, or in the ethnic way.
I meant that this region, broadly speaking “Persia”, has often been the center of its own empire and a peer to its neighbors. It’s not some recently stabilized nation state with limited collective experience, it’s an old old place that already had a complex urban economy when western Europe was still neolithic. That’s why i joke with the Elamites, that shit is deep history man, broken to the yoke of empire time and time again.
Trump, 79, told his administration that he thought Iran would capitulate to the U.S. before it closed the Strait
Yeah that’s what it seemed like, he thought he’d just bomb a little and everything would go his way. Got hopped up success in Venezuela and thought it would be the same.
Why does Trump want the strait OPEN?
He’s the one that CLOSED it.
Ooh yea, that OLD trick he uses when he makes a problem and then fixes the problem he made.
Trump, what a deal maker. /s
