I’m genuinely curious: do you think you’re making a point? This is like the most boring dumbass msnbc talking point. You say I’m smug which is. I can’t even express the disdain I have for you lol. You spent time typing out how smart you think you are because there are two parties in the US and that’s why we have to be serious about supporting genocide. Did you reference Miriam Webster to see if genocider is a word? You repeated, not smugly?

You’re “not a liberal or democrat” you just vote for them and repeat their talking points.

Palestine is objectively experiencing less violence under trump which is wildly pathetic for the biden administration.

Lol lmao you don’t know any leftists.

Lol good lord you’re so boring and stupid. I’m not voting for your dumbass candidate. Not a liberal, votes and supports liberal genociders.

This is historically illiterate nonsense.

Calling me smug is pretty rich.

What I want is a actual good policy.

Yeah I like my conscience soothed lol. Lol.

Well maybe the democrats will learn something. As for my vote being productive, you can look at the vote count for Jill Stein and know that I took my ballot, filled it out and walked down to the box and dropped it off. And you could have had my vote except genocide was too sweet.

Condescendingly explaining how us politics work I think was the strategy in 2024, you should keep doing it, I see your party is having great success with that approach. Try the unelectable approach for anyone left of reagan too, that one has a consistent track record of success too.

I really enjoy when you libs explain a 2 party political system to me. Thank you!

I don’t know if you’ve noticed but in the latest round of genocide, the vast majority of killing and damage was done under the democrats.

It’s disgusting you appeal to the suffering of Palestinians to support your candidates who enabled the suffering. It’s honestly the craziest argument liberals pull out. There’s mass graves of babies in Gaza delivered by the weapons your president sent to a genocidal colonial project. And you have the nerve to say that my vote made it worse.

Don’t engage if you think it could turn violent.

If you would like to talk, I will not talk here but you can dm me. I’m not an accelerationist, no one really is.

Yeah, well, I have a lot of people that I work with so my experience is relevant to this question. We are not preparing for a revolution, we’re worried about the breakdown of civil society in America.

I didn’t vote for Harris. I fucking hate that woman. I’m a communist, not a liberal.

If she had changed on Gaza I would have voted for her.

I understand the despair. And the desire to flee. And the desire for normalcy. I, too, could choose brunch, even now under the trump administration. I can also afford to flee.

But I don’t and you shouldn’t. We must build a better world.

As long as I have strength, I will work to build that vision here, in my home. With the friends and neighbors I’ve cultivated.

I’m going to give you an actual answer.

The federal crackdowns will breed resistance.

Resistance will cause the fascists to use more brutality. It is all they know how to do.

What do you think is going to happen? There is no vanguard or army to fight against the state abusing it’s people.

Better than a genocider lol

I voted for the lesser evil

Lol.

Friend. I spend all of my time organizing and working with my community. The only way out is through. And the only way through is building strong communities.

You should adjust your attitude. There are many good people doing good work on the ground.

So maybe you should try something else

I voted for her but like I’m not a liberal so…

My revolution? No one is advocating for a glorious revolution. You’re learning about the limits of electoral politics in a capitalist system. Your solution to this is to give up? That’s your right if that’s what you want.

But I don’t think you’ll actually have a choice about dying in this way.

And I think if you’re going to just give up then telling others how to vote is pretty rude.

It’s not a “gotcha”. If your goal was to vote out trump, you failed. That tactic did not work. How you evaluate that as tactically sound, I’m not sure.

Furthermore, I think your tactic leaves you in a strategically untenable situation.

You should evaluate your tactics and evaluate the limits of electoralism then. And you should adjust accordingly.

Ok. How was this successful tactically?

I am saying that objectively looking at the outcome of the election means that running and supporting a pro genocide campaign was a tactical and strategic failure. You shouldn’t do that in the future.

Well there’s the same amount of genocide. But yes, we agree, and that means voting this way was a tactical and strategic failure.