Calling it now. Nothing will happen.

A slap on the wrist here. A scapegoat there. Nothing serious.

The people that run America want this to happen. The mega-wealthy. They don’t care. They are in charge.

The people could be if they rose up or protested enough. They won’t though. As long as they have their TV shows and food on the table the majority sadly don’t give a shit.

The one that has the final say when it’s in full operation.

Someone is going to make so much money selling iron lungs when they roll out polio 2.0 in a couple of years.

I had never heard that expression before and had to look it up. Very interesting but they’ve been obsolete for decades now.

The procedure since the 1960s has been to delivery positive pressure ventilation to expand the lungs via tracheotomy, rather than housing the patient in the irong lung (negative pressure chamber).

Did get me reading about Paul Alexander too. The man who used an iron lung for 70 odd years, achieving a degree and a career as an attorney and author. Worth a read!

Not trying to prove you wrong. Just wanted to share info on the subject. Thanks for the comment. Sent me down a rabbit hole!

You make a point. It would need to be comprehensive in it’s reach.

The best way to achieve it in my view would be to strip much of the Presidential powers away. Trump has clearly shown that there is far too much power concentrated in the executive and that many of the unwritten rules are as good as non-existent.

I don’t have enough knowledge to claim to know exactly how to do it. It would require a bipartisan effort and extensive legal work to ensure it’s watertight. Giving Congress more power and giving the executive more accountability would be the way though I believe.

As much as I would personally like to see those responsible held to account I think you’re right in that it would cause untold amounts of harm. It is the right thing to do but there would be huge fallout.

Personally I think America and it’s reputation would benefit much more from putting in place robust laws, even amendments to the constitution to openly and definitively show the world “guys, we’re really sorry. This will absolutely not happen again. Ever”. That’s the only way.

If you prosecute those responsible without changing anything then they will be back with even more vengeance and even more extreme and messed up ideas.

That’s a very valid point.

I would reply though that the article is quite vague on specifics.

They could be providing verbal testimony to exactly what happened and how it happened. This piece feels like it’s vague enough for the administration to just outright deny.

If they, as a group, stood together and said “this is exactly what we saw and this is why it is terrifying” it would have far more weight than an article in a newspaper, even if it is the NYT.

I get that. It does make sense. Do you know how exactly they are trying to affevt change then? Do you believe they’re working behind the scenes? Just wondering if that’s an assumption or you know something.

It’s a gross injustice. The administration is basically subverting the rule of law and these people know that. Every US citizen should be aware of what they are doing. It’s the behaviour of an authoritarian regime, not a democracy.

I mean, it’s great that they left their posts to protect their own integrity. Bravo.

Where is the fight though? Why aren’t these people going out and telling the world that this administration is corrupting the rule of law?

They have the information. They can tell the world exactly what they’re doing over there. They’ve seen it. Yet none of them come forward.

For an administration like this to succeed in what they’re doing it also takes a massive lack of action from those that could stop it or speak out against it.

All I see are cowards interested in themselves. If they really wanted to have any integrity they would be in front of the cameras, together, telling the whole world exactly what happened.

But they’re not.

Very sorry to hear that.

Although I don’t know you personally I sincerely hope, as I’m sure you do, that you succeed in your battle against it and that you have a great deal many more healthy years ahead of you.

You’re doing fantastic work here and I believe I speak for everyone when I say a massive thank you for it.

All the best 👍🙏

His progressive politics must be portrayed as a catastrophic failure in any way possible. Otherwise the elite class will be shitting their pants.

The elites need to maintain the status quo at all costs.

Some on the far right praise him, yeah. That’s true. “Universally” was my use of hyperbole.

The vast majority of UK residents despise him though, to the point that any political leader coming out in support of him would effectively be killing their career. Hence why Nigel Farage is dancing around the topic like maypole.

It shows a really quite astounding lack of self awareness to even think that it’s worth having a premier in the UK.

Had she been even remotely aware of how we (I’m from the UK) feel about her husband over here, she would know that this was inevitable.

Her husband is universally despised in this country. Even by the Right.

It didn’t take me long to find out this guy was the first AG to be held in contempt of Congress for the ATF Gun Walking scandal.

Whilst I am against what the Trump administration is doing is the strongest possible terms, it doesn’t come out of nowhere. You could argue he set a precedent with his actions on that scandal.

Although what we’re seeing now is a different beast, the first Trump administration was, in my belief, a reaction to abuses of power such as these.

Amen.

Let them clearly show they support the brutal and oppressive tactics. Then there’s no debate when this is finally over as to who stood up and aho didn’t.

It’s funny how so many people are willing to write letters but none of these powerful people are willing to go there, see for themselves what’s happening and speak about it.

They all talk big but they never, ever put themselves anywhere near harms way. Not even politically, let alone physically.

Everyone knows the “all it takes for bad to prevail is for good people to do nothing” quote or whatever it is. The Democrats are the living embodiment of that saying. As long as they get re-elected and still have their money they couldn’t care less.

Sorry! I see where I messed up now.

It should have read "is there a thread on Lemmy for organising action against misinformation (elsewhere on the internet)?

That’s what I meant. I’ll work on my grammar if I’m going to stick around.

I have not seen any on here. Only on Reddit.

I do not understand how this has been misconstrued. I can’t look at my original comment as it was removed but let me be clear. I have not seen any on here. At all. I never meant to say I had. There has been some confusion somewhere.

Why are you so angry at me? I’m just here for a sensible discussion man.

Center as in combining a capitalist free market economy with the social responsibility a government should have when looking after the welfare of it’s citizens and regulating businesses practices in a safe but not overbearing way.

I see myself as a centerist in the traditional way. I don’t believe there really is a “left” much in America. What is considered left wing in America would be classed as virtually center left or centerist anywhere in Europe, for instance. Even progressives in the US would be practically left of center elsewhere. There is no traditional left wing as it’s vilified.

I think minorities and migrants are beneficial to a country both economically and culturally. I do not oppose them in any way, nor support their disenfranchisement in any way. Nor have I said anything of the sort that would suggest I do.

If you’re still offended then you need to calm down.

Sorry I must have not made myself clear at all.

I meant Reddit is crawling with them.

I have no idea about Lemmy as I’ve been here less than a day, as you said, but it seems normal to me. How Reddit was pre-2016.

Again, sorry for the misunderstanding.

I’m just going to play it safe and never talk about it again on here from now on.

Yeah. It’s easily done.

What I wouldn’t give for a T.R Roosevelt figure in today’s climate, while we’re in that era!