Fake videos show frustrated, unmarried, childless middle-aged women crying and venting in hospital hallways about their life choices.
I would lose so much respect for my parents if they used an AI generated video to try and convince me of something.
Would you respect your parents more of they paid actors and a cameraman to create the video instead?
At least then they put some effort into it
Seems more likely to cause some suicides.
Humanity priced itself out of the market.
Shaming people into having kids works so well
They rush to have children who are then cherished and not resented
/s
The one child policy really gonna be up there with killing all the sparrows long term…
It was in place 45 years and only gone a decade.
You can’t just flip a cultural switch and expect them to become bunnies overnight. And that’s not even getting into the economic part.
Kids are fucking expensive.
When workers aren’t paid well, people stop having kids. That shrinks labor supply in a generation, workers can command enough pay to have kids, and population will stabilize.
The wealthy hate populations dropping, because they have the luxury to plan ahead and know eventually it leads to more powerful workers.
It’s why it’s a constant boogeyman and reproduction has been prioritized thru virtually all of recorded human history.
The one child policy really gonna be up there with killing all the sparrows long term…
Except that killing the sparrows was a bad idea.
Getting rid of pests was the problem, and it was a real one…
Killing all the sparrows was a legitimate attempt to help that backfired.
Overpopulation was and still is a problem.
One child would have theoretically been managed, but ignored how people act individually and the desire to have a son. An honest and legitimate attempt to mitigate a real problem backfired.
I feel it’s an apt comparison, even if I didn’t explain enough at first
Yeah… the difference is that one (sparrows) was just a bad idea due to a total misunderstanding of the problem. The sparrows weren’t the pests, the bugs they eat were.
The other (one child) is a good idea that was poorly managed due to unexpected cultural mores. Even so it would still be effective once people are “incentivized” to give up on the foolishness of prioritizing one sex over the other.
Well, you might not understand it, but you learned how to repeat it at least
We’ll call it a win I guess.
Well, you might not understand it
Pretty strong words considering what they were meaning to say with their original comment completely flew over your head
Good thing the government, led by the vanguard and guided by the Immortal Science, wisely choose to implement a one child policy for so long.
My parents and extended family: “why don’t you find a nice girl to [blah blah blah]”
Me: “haha yes I’ll get right on that”
Me: having mega gay sex in addition to actively not wanting children, even if I was medically a good candidate to father them
Parents/extended: “I just don’t understand”
Me: upgrades to ultra mega gay sex
Here’s your Darwin Award, well done!
I don’t think that means what you think it means, but I won’t tell anyone… 🤫
(DA require someone to end themselves or their ability to carry on their bloodline though blatant stupidity of some fashion; merely not reproducing does not count)
Out of curiosity, what is the second level upgrade or evolution?
asking for a friend
it goes gay, gayra, gayraga, gayraja
You know my straight ass is spamming that button to prevent it from evolving into gayraga
Ultra Mega Gay Sex Pro Max FE Special Edition+
Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry™ series
💦
I imagine that Xi probably doesn’t care all that much whether you’re having mega gay sex, but I expect that he is very interested in whether you are also employing that dingus in ways more-conducive to sustaining future state output.
Childless, child free.This is such an important distinction, tbh
They’re each trying to put their own spin on it, there is no actual distinction in the words, just in the subtext/implication.
The former implies it’s a lacking of a necessary thing, the latter implies it’s the avoidance of an unnecessary burden. It’s completely subjective whether a child is one or the other to someone.
It’s a broadcast of one’s own biases to consider either of these terms more ‘valid’ than the other.
It’s a broadcast of one’s own biases to consider either of these terms more ‘valid’ than the other.
You seem to misunderstand. No one is saying one term is more valid than the other. They are different words meant to describe different people.
A person that doesn’t want children, and doesn’t have any, is considered childfree.
A person that wants children, but doesn’t have any, is considered childless.
Since these parents are trying to convince their children to have kids, said children are clearly childfree, not childless. A childless person that wants children wouldn’t need convincing
At the very least, if you’re trying to persuade to have kids, people who have chosen to not have kids, those people are not childless, they are child free. Their will is to be without child. They are not failing at having kids, they are succeeding at not having them.
I am dubious of your intermediate and final claims. For something to be necessary, it means that one cannot go without it. Is procreation a biological imperative, with strong positive reinforcement from the individual’s biological feedbacks? Sure. But is it necessary? Strictly, no.
I don’t think you can make the claim that someone saying it is not necessary is inherently biased. To claim that procreation is not strictly necessary is a neutral, objectively true position. The bias in the perspective of “child-free” is the implied framing of the lack of procreation as a personal or moral good. Procreation is, again, unnecessary, and is (in many ways literally) a burden. Whether one frames that unnecessary burden as positive or negative is at issue here.
I don’t appreciate the claim that people must be biased in order to observe simple facts, denuded of emotion.
Fight fire with fire. Time for the Chinese Kids to start spamming their parents with AI-gen’d videos of Men and Women regretting getting married.
Or old people crying that their kids don’t talk to them anymore because they were not kind to their kids.
Cheaper to just interview random couples.
Why pay though?
Why do people pay for anything? So they don’t have to make it themselves.
It’s AI generated, it takes two seconds
Most people don’t realize how easy it is. Then it’s also hardware intensive to do locally. So, they end up going to some service online that does it and they charge.
Some online platforms allow a few freebies.
Worst than going to the hospital alone and spending old age alone is doing that after doing all the work of having kids. I will be alone and I’m taking care of that but I know people relying on children that don’t give a fuck about them.
What ghouls. Let people live the lives they want.
what if being shitty to their kids is how they want to live ?
Parents (not being able to tell the videos are AI-generated): “See this? This will be you in 30 years if you don’t get married and have kids very soon!”
Kids (able to see the videos are visit AI-generated): “Suuuuure!”
The fact that it’s AI generated tells the kids that it doesn’t happen in real life.
Why would anyone in their right mind bring a child into this chaos right now? Humans probably need a good ole fashioned hard reset. First we need to fix oil dependency and the climate. That’s a start.
Chinese Nationalists are probably feeling more powerful than ever before. Imagine MAGA but worse, because their supreme leader has been around for longer and their party has been around for lifetimes.
Nice to know the ungodly toxic, overbearing and boundryless parent is a universal phenomenon.
How is life in China actually? There must be a reason people don’t want children. I imagine work culture, bad pay, bad prospects, and inability to secure housing are top among the reasons.
Not that I am disagreeing with your assessment, but I think low child brith rate is pretty universal in developed country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate
Yes, education is a big factor in reduced birth rate, but I doubt it’s the biggest factor. If educated people lived in societies with good conditions for raising and bearing children, I imagine they would make the informed decision to get children.
It would take more than financial incentives I suspect. It’s the time cost that is so demanding and it would likely require a restructuring of society that either results in people working much less hours, or a more community-based child rearing approach.
There must be a reason people don’t want children.
Yeah, kids cry and shit a lot. You don’t need a reason not to want them, you need a reason to have them.
They also take up all your goddamn time with storytime and cuddles and teaching them how to ride a bike or type their name out on a keyboard or playing lego or making crafts or going on adventures or eating cheese
And doctor appointments, and driving them to school and from school and standing next to them watching them stand there not doing anything just in case the fall down and hit their head on the floor and cooking 3 different breakfasts for them because they changed their mind 3 times and so on and so on. Yeah, it’s very rewarding for some, not that appealing for others.
Driving them to school
I don’t have kids, but i remember bus drivers manage to do this job quite well. (source: I was once a kid)
NYT put out a video 3 weeks ago covering a few guys that couldn’t get women. The video says there’s 30 million more men than women in the country due to the one child policy.
But that figure could be inflated
I’ve seen a documentary (i think it was on Arte) with similar numbers. It was about a guy founding an organisation to search for kidnapped city women sold as wifes in the countryside. His own wife was kidnapped and sold… the police never found her (like many others) so he took it in his own hands.
None of those reasons are why I decided not to have children. My reason is: my wife and I like to play computer 8 hours per day when we got home from work.
I believe China has too much housing right now. But the rest seems to be reason enough.
People who leave and get citizenship elsewhere are never allowed to return. It’s a single party dictatorship with no sign of civil rights, some minorities are actively being sterilized and eradicated.
If you’re a wealthy Han Chinese then I bet it’s great.
If you’re a wealthy non-political anybody it’s great.
Edit: Apparently my sarcasm wasn’t detectable. Have a /s.
Just be careful not to say anything non-political or the CCP will flog you for not saying their-political things. And also be Han Chinese. And also they might randomly flog you, regardless.
And whatever you do, DO NOT get selected as the next Dalai Lama, nobody ever saw the Panchen Lama or his entire family after they found him.
Don’t get carried away. The reason is the opposite of what you think.
Their birth rates dropped dramatically because they raised so many people out of poverty with socialism. But now capitalism demands that they generate more workers.
Pretty deep irony, because very recently they weren’t allowed to have more than one child.
They actually had massive overpopulation after industrialization and then limited it with the One Child Policy, then later the Two Child Policy, but one of the repercussions of the One Child Policy and the inability of women to inherit wealth was that female babies were murdered at birth and a large gender ratio disparity formed. Now that the population has started to decline while average lifespan rises due to improved medical science, two new problems have formed:
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The ratio of elderly to young is skewed, meaning one young has to take care of more elderly or do their equivalent of work.
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The dictatorship’s most recent leader has realized he personally benefits from more manpower regardless of the consequences and suffering that increased population will cause.
You’re correct. It’s an oversimplification…but not a big one.
Cold hard predicative and replicable facts are better than “it must suck in China so they don’t want kids, bro”
It’s an oversimplification…but not a big one.
It’s a massive oversimplification that seems to whitewash China’s policies.
Every country that undergoes industrialisation and urbanisation has a big drop in birth rates. Same in capitalist and socialist countries, there’s no essential difference in how it plays out (the tempo is different from case to case for many reasons, but the trend is the same). But China additionally made the rates plummet through govt intervention.
So you stressed and praised the part that wasn’t truly crucial for the outcome (socialism), but ignored the part (one child policy) that drastically contributed to the outcome and that can’t be presented as nice or intuitively desirable (regardless of whether it objectively was or wasn’t a good decision). That’s not simplification but selectiveness.
(Yes, it is true that many lemmings who live outside China just project their own “China sucks” logic onto the Chinese, and their approach is wrong, I agree with you on that count.)
Yes…because those things create wealth. Sounds like you agree but are trying to find an argument. We know birth rate and wealth/poverty are directly related…it’s is what it is. Once upon a time it was just understood that was the case…before everybody injected personal politics into everything.
For the purposes of my comment I’m ambivalent about the political “vehicle”…I’m just plainly stating what happened: social policy raised billions out of poverty….then the capitalist elements of the society demanded labour. We know it’s not the other way around. If you think I’m assigning value to either capitalism or socialism, you’re projecting.
Meh…what, in your headcanon, am I “selecting” for? I don’t even know if you got “offended” about socialism or capitalism, I don’t want to debate something I didn’t say.
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