• LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    I wouldn’t vote for Gavin if he was the Democratic candidate. He is just as horrible as the other Democrats.

    We need true change and true leaders that will change the government to work for the working class instead of the wealthy.

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      12 days ago

      So who would you vote for? JD Vance? Or you throwing your vote away and letting JD Vance win anyway?

      Edit: we aren’t even in the primaries yet but the bots are already out in full force to start telling American citizens to vote 3rd party.

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          13 days ago

          Who do think is running in place of Trump? The name is irrelevant. It is the Republican nominee. They are all complicit in genocide it doesn’t matter who it is. It will be the democrats and the republicans. Any other party is a vote for maga.

          Are you that naive to think otherwise?

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            13 days ago

            Naive is when Americans are corralled to think into the way that you are thinking now. Why is it no one mentioned about primary-ing progressive alternative to Newsom? Everyone quickly assumed it’s Vance and Newsom immediately in the next presidential election.

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                  3 days ago

                  I wasnt the one complaining about everyone else and not taking resposibility for my own actions here was i.

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    13 days ago

    The only reason Newsom has had any interest from the broader electorate is that he was outspoken in opposing Trump. The minute he enters the primary and starts spouting the same valueless, donor-approved, corporate drivel as Kamala, Jefferies, Schumer, etc., he’s going to flame out fast.

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        13 days ago

        She was the vice president, the person we choose to take over when a president is incapacitated. I would love to hear about all the ways she’s worse than Trump.

        Nothing more infuriating to see people thoroughly scrutinize one candidate while absolutely refusing to do so for the other.

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          12 days ago

          They didn’t say anything about Trump, they said she had no shot of winning the primary, which is true. She was on track to lose every single state, including California, where she was a sitting senator. If you think describing polling data from a 5 year old primary is somehow saying Kamala is, “worse than Trump,” you should log off for a while, maybe take a walk or something.

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            11 days ago

            they said she had no shot of winning the primary

            The neither did Sanders.

            She was NOT GOING TO LOSE CALIFORNIA. For fuck’s sake, who could possibly be this fucking stupid. You know the election happened right? SHE WON CALIFORNIA, YOU IMPOSSIBLE DUMBASS.

            She was essentially a younger Biden so you might want to look into whatever unconscious issues you have with voting for a non-white man.

            You’re saying Harris shouldn’t have been elected… that means you support Trump. You certainly worked extra hard for him spreading your bullshit lies and blatant propaganda. You’re the same as MAGA, no thought, no reasoning, no HONESTY. Fucking shameful.

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              11 days ago

              She was NOT GOING TO LOSE CALIFORNIA. For fuck’s sake, who could possibly be this fucking stupid.

              OK, but yes, she absolutely was..

              You know the election happened right? SHE WON CALIFORNIA, YOU IMPOSSIBLE DUMBASS.

              Again, no. She dropped out before the California ballot deadline, most likely to spare herself the embarrassment of losing her home state.

              The neither did Sanders.

              Sanders won several states. Kamala was polling so badly she dropped out before Iowa.

              I’m sorry that accurately remembering the 2020 primary is so upsetting to you, but Kamala did not win a single state, even as a VP choice. She dropped out in December of 2019. Voting started in February of 2020. Biden eventually secured the nomination, and on August 11th, the day that the final state voted, he named Kamala as his running mate.. Anyway, maybe before you jump into a thread and start calling people dumbasses, you should make sure that literally everything you’re saying isn’t wrong.

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    14 days ago

    At this point in time I’m pretty sure you would win in a landslide if you ran on taxing billionaires. Is being greedy a requirement to be a politician in the US?

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      If you’re not greedy, the billionaires won’t fund your campaign. Then you lose.

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        13 days ago

        Well, added context is billionaires won’t fund your campaign causing your public relations to drop. Then you lose.

        We shouldn’t just scapegoat the rich for something that tens of millions of people vote for while tens of millions more don’t vote at all.

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          12 days ago

          Irrelevant context. As a great sage once said

          If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice

          This is a binary system one OR the other will win. There is no other outcome. You either push to influence it in a better or worse direction you dont get to sit it out. The result WILL effect you.

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            12 days ago

            It is relevant and important context because we solve this problem by convincing the millions of people, not the rich.

            A wise famous playwrite once said:

            "Putting the cart before the horse ".

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              “Putting the cart before the horse”

              Which is what youre doing by waiting for your perfect fantasy candidate rather than working with the good enough reality.

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                You must have me confused with somebody else.

                If Newsom wins the primary then I’ll be singing his praises, you can sleep well knowing that much.

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                  I dont believe you. Especially after your previous posts. And god know how many others youve influenced with those “stay home and wait for perfect” ideals.