Just to be clear. This is what Christians want. They want the world to end and they want everyone but them to suffer for eternity so they can feel smug. It’s all made up fairy tales but it’s what they want.
No I don’t. I don’t want the world to end, and I certainly don’t want anyone to suffer. Most Christians don’t. The fact that these sickos do, should be a glaring sign that they’re not following Christ. In fact, I’ve heard of supposedly “Christian” MAGAts complaining to their pastor after a sermon that that shit is too liberal, too woke, and doesn’t work. These conservatives preach the polar opposite of what Jesus taught.
If you want the biblical view on this, here’s what Thessalonians 2 has to say about this (just came across this on Mastodon):
“Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.”
If I read that, I have to admit that does sound surprisingly like Trump. But he’s not on the side of God.
There’s more stuff about blaspheming and being believed despite his many lies in other books.
I don’t actually believe in the literal interpretation of such end time prophesies, and I certainly don’t see Trump as some diabolical entity, but he is by far the closest match to it that I’ve ever seen.
I’m glad there are good Christians out there and I’ve even met a few of them but it’s the exception for sure. A good Christian is good despite their religion not because of it. When you tell someone from the age of 2 onward that they are a terrible person and can never be good no matter what they do they tend to believe it. Teaching original sin to toddlers is child abuse. It then creates a ton of cognitive dissonance because none of it actually makes sense but there is immense pressure to fit into the group. Most Christians end up knowing it’s wrong but have to believe it’s right which creates psychosis.
At its most basic, religion is a tool for getting people from a very young age to believe anything they’re told without question. This is what they call faith. It’s a complete bastardization of the word and the concept of faith. Faith should mean trusting someone because they’ve proved their character through actions. To Christians faith means you must believe whatever you’re told as long as it was interpreted from the Bible or said by an approved source of leadership like a pastor or, lately, a politician who says they’re religious.
I’m glad you can see that Trump is an imposter. You have to justify your worldview by saying that you don’t believe literal interpretations of the Bible though. It’s a big problem and you really can’t blame the majority of Christians who have become evil by reading a book that they’ve been told is the word of God and then applying what it says to their entire identity. There’s good stuff in the Bible for sure but why do we need a book that has so much bad in it as well. It’s impossible to parse and interpret for most people.
Y’all don’t get the benefit of us assuming most of you are decent. In fact I tend to assume the opposite, based on mountains of historical evidence and personal observations.
There might be some decent folks among you, but the idea that Christians as a whole don’t actively wish for the suffering of others (whether they frame it that way to themselves or not) is a laughable premise.
[Edit to add: there’s a simple causal relationship at root here, too - damn near every truly decent Christian person I’ve ever known, the more they learn about their religion and how it behaves in the world - the less Christian they get. The ones who remain as they mature - again in my experience - either deliberately have their heads in the sand, or have moral values that stand in opposition to the exact virtues espoused by Christ]
That’s the problem that non-Christians don’t understand. We think they’ll be afraid of the Anti-Christ, and do anything they can to avoid him, but they don’t see it that way.
Their ultimate objective is to get to heaven, and hang with God and Jesus (yeah, right, like they’ve been waiting throughout the history of mankind, just waiting for YOU to show up and brighten their day), and to do that, they have to go through the Rapture, and the Anti-Christ is what kicks that off.
So while it might be a bit inconvenient for a time, it will be worth it to get Raptured, and leave all the Atheists and bad Christians behind to suffer whatever torment they are fantasizing about.
So they welcome the Anti-Christ, the fucking weirdos.
I will also point out that the idea of a pre-tribulation Rapture is not biblically well-supported, and was pretty much made up out of whole cloth by dispensationalists in England as a way to make the idea of a doctrine focused on Revelation more palatable (“see, you’ll be taken to heaven in secret one day before all this happens”). It’s taken a LOT more root in America than it did in Europe, to the point that it’s mainstream doctrine among a lot of churches (thanks Tim LaHaye and Jerry B Jenkins for doing that, you weird fucks).
Just to be clear. This is what Christians want. They want the world to end and they want everyone but them to suffer for eternity so they can feel smug. It’s all made up fairy tales but it’s what they want.
No I don’t. I don’t want the world to end, and I certainly don’t want anyone to suffer. Most Christians don’t. The fact that these sickos do, should be a glaring sign that they’re not following Christ. In fact, I’ve heard of supposedly “Christian” MAGAts complaining to their pastor after a sermon that that shit is too liberal, too woke, and doesn’t work. These conservatives preach the polar opposite of what Jesus taught.
If you want the biblical view on this, here’s what Thessalonians 2 has to say about this (just came across this on Mastodon):
“Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.”
If I read that, I have to admit that does sound surprisingly like Trump. But he’s not on the side of God.
There’s more stuff about blaspheming and being believed despite his many lies in other books.
I don’t actually believe in the literal interpretation of such end time prophesies, and I certainly don’t see Trump as some diabolical entity, but he is by far the closest match to it that I’ve ever seen.
I’m glad there are good Christians out there and I’ve even met a few of them but it’s the exception for sure. A good Christian is good despite their religion not because of it. When you tell someone from the age of 2 onward that they are a terrible person and can never be good no matter what they do they tend to believe it. Teaching original sin to toddlers is child abuse. It then creates a ton of cognitive dissonance because none of it actually makes sense but there is immense pressure to fit into the group. Most Christians end up knowing it’s wrong but have to believe it’s right which creates psychosis.
At its most basic, religion is a tool for getting people from a very young age to believe anything they’re told without question. This is what they call faith. It’s a complete bastardization of the word and the concept of faith. Faith should mean trusting someone because they’ve proved their character through actions. To Christians faith means you must believe whatever you’re told as long as it was interpreted from the Bible or said by an approved source of leadership like a pastor or, lately, a politician who says they’re religious.
I’m glad you can see that Trump is an imposter. You have to justify your worldview by saying that you don’t believe literal interpretations of the Bible though. It’s a big problem and you really can’t blame the majority of Christians who have become evil by reading a book that they’ve been told is the word of God and then applying what it says to their entire identity. There’s good stuff in the Bible for sure but why do we need a book that has so much bad in it as well. It’s impossible to parse and interpret for most people.
Y’all don’t get the benefit of us assuming most of you are decent. In fact I tend to assume the opposite, based on mountains of historical evidence and personal observations.
There might be some decent folks among you, but the idea that Christians as a whole don’t actively wish for the suffering of others (whether they frame it that way to themselves or not) is a laughable premise.
[Edit to add: there’s a simple causal relationship at root here, too - damn near every truly decent Christian person I’ve ever known, the more they learn about their religion and how it behaves in the world - the less Christian they get. The ones who remain as they mature - again in my experience - either deliberately have their heads in the sand, or have moral values that stand in opposition to the exact virtues espoused by Christ]
That’s the problem that non-Christians don’t understand. We think they’ll be afraid of the Anti-Christ, and do anything they can to avoid him, but they don’t see it that way.
Their ultimate objective is to get to heaven, and hang with God and Jesus (yeah, right, like they’ve been waiting throughout the history of mankind, just waiting for YOU to show up and brighten their day), and to do that, they have to go through the Rapture, and the Anti-Christ is what kicks that off.
So while it might be a bit inconvenient for a time, it will be worth it to get Raptured, and leave all the Atheists and bad Christians behind to suffer whatever torment they are fantasizing about.
So they welcome the Anti-Christ, the fucking weirdos.
I will also point out that the idea of a pre-tribulation Rapture is not biblically well-supported, and was pretty much made up out of whole cloth by dispensationalists in England as a way to make the idea of a doctrine focused on Revelation more palatable (“see, you’ll be taken to heaven in secret one day before all this happens”). It’s taken a LOT more root in America than it did in Europe, to the point that it’s mainstream doctrine among a lot of churches (thanks Tim LaHaye and Jerry B Jenkins for doing that, you weird fucks).