• RustyShackleford@piefed.social
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      It’s likely one of many reasons Trump is so anti-FBI in his first term, train his followers to think they can’t be trusted.

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      It’s not evidence of a crime. It’s a report. Someone said it, it got written down.

      I’m not saying it is or it is not true.

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      That’s not what the Epstein files are. They’re literally any paperwork related to him, even the tips from kooks. Some reaches the level of evidence, most is cruft.

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        This “paperwork” suggests that TRUMP murdered a newborn and dumped it into a lake after having SEX with a CHILD.

        Are YOU suggesting that we treat it as gossip or should we look a bit closer???

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          I’m saying an accusation can be made by anyone, and does not automatically constitute fact. Its presence in the file doesn’t mean the claim was substantiated.

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            This accusation was not made by “anyone”. It was made by the woman who watched him murder her newborn.

            Why would she say that? Money? Fame? Power? She currently HAS none of that.

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              The report was made a couple months before the 2020 election. Many others also made wild reports. I saw two others in the Epstein files made literally 6 days for the election.

              There are plenty of reasons to make up a story.

              But sure, they should go and investigate it. Starting with the woman and her uncle. Oh wait, I bet the uncle is dead. And I bet she took great effort to gather evidence… right…?

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                There are plenty of reasons to make up a story.

                Like being targeted for harassment and possibly get murdered? This is not a typical rape accusation, it is made against someone who has been carrying out extra-judicial murders abroad.

                And I bet she took great effort to gather evidence

                This is classic rape apologetics. It is not the victim’s job to collect evidence while they are distressed, that’s the job of the investigators.

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                    We don’t know if the victim did nothing though, she talked to a detective for over 20 minutes and so far we have not seen any documents regarding that conversation. She could have even done more than you, but we should not expect her to even though that is the response of some victims, it is not a universal response.

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              To shift blame? For attention? Mental illness? We don’t know enough of the context. Was it investigated? What was the outcome? Was it deemed credible?

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                  Again, the files are a dump of everything they have related to Epstein. There is no credibility threshold.

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                    I noticed that there is NOTHIING from ME in the Epstein files. I said lots of things about him.

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                  They don’t delete reports from record when they’re deemed not credible. Not even when they’re proven false.