• mrdown@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Free the fediverse from zionist pro genocide and settler colonialism people like you.

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      2 days ago

      oh look, censorship, an authoritarian classic. not sure if you’re like that because stalinist, islamist or both, though.

      • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 days ago

        Maybe you should learn the meaning of words before you start using them. Somebody responding to what you say isn’t censorship. Not even close.

        Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.

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          6 hours ago

          What mrdown wrote, especially in this context, is a thinly veiled threat of murder. That is censorship, not a “consequence”.

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        2 days ago

        Israel love islamist and authoritarian countries like saudi arabia and stalinist like Putin.

        Putin is a true friend of Israel - Ariel Sharon in 2001

        Israel is, in fact, a special state to us. It is practically a Russian-speaking country. Israel is one of the few foreign countries that can be called Russian-speaking. It’s apparent that more than half of the population speaks - Putin in 2010

        In August, Russia began increasing fruit imports from Israel, after banning food imports from the EU, Norway, United States, Canada and Australia

        In Ocobre 2015 , Israel and Russia held meetings to coordinate over Syria, and avoid accidentally clashing or scrambling each other’s communications while operating over the country.

        In March 2016, Putin said the relations with Israel were special and based “on friendship, mutual understanding and the long common history Russia and Israel have developed a special relationship. 1.5 million Israeli citizens come from the former Soviet Union, they speak the Russian language, are the bearers of Russian culture, Russian mentality. They maintain relations with their relatives and friends in Russia, and this make the interstate relations very special”

        You really love israel an extremist jewish state that don’t represent jews and even killed jews before

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          6 hours ago

          the russian administration had a huge influence in syria when assad was still in power. with russian military at it’s doorstep and allowing israel to strike hezbollah without repercussions, there was of course an incentive to be on good terms with russia.

          israel is a working democracy that acts as a safe space for jews. before the genocide committed by hamas on 7th oct 2023, there were widespread protests against the right-wing government. it is not an “extremist jewish” state. as in similar cases (9/11 attack on twin towers), civil society closed ranks after the attacks, which severely weakened the protests.

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            4 hours ago

            Name a single genocide expert or reputable saying there was a genocide during 7 of october, i can name many saying there is a genocide in Gaza. It is logically imposible for a genocide to happen during 7 of ocober since hamas stated goal was attacking some military target and get some israeli hostages to liberate some palestinian hostages.

            Also israel has been comiting all the crimes hamas did during 7 of october decades before hamas even existed

            Russia good relation with israel goes beyong the war in syria too and democratic country can still commit crimes and genocide so it is completely irelevant for israel to be a democracy. When the police attack anti netenyahu protest it doesn’t look like a functioning democracy to me

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              3 hours ago

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_in_the_October_7_attacks#Academic_and_legal_discourse

              you do not sound like having a lot of knowledge about hamas and its islamist allies stated goals. about two thirds of victims in the attack on 7th october were civilians. striking military targets was evidently not the intent.

              crimes do not “cancel each other out” as you suggest. they feed on each other in a spiral of violence.

              contrary to your believe that israel is an “extremist state” i presented you evidence that it has a healthy democratic counter culture.

              show me a parliamentarian democracy where leftist demonstrations are not targeted by police brutality and i show you a state that does not exist.

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                Jurists and academics are not expert of genocide . Again name me a single reputable genocide expert and reputable human orgs say that 7 of October was a genocide. A genocide need to target a whole population to be a genocide which is not the case of 7 of October.

                Killing babies and maintaining 57 years of occupation is not extremism? Building colonies , expulsing west bankers, arming the settlers to attack women harvesting olive is not extremism?

                If it was about fighting islamists Israel would not attack Christian Palestinians and would attack ISIS

                The usa is a democracy . Are you also denying that they comited war crimes in Iraq?