A couple were told they faced a $200,000 (£146,500) medical bill when their baby was born prematurely in the US, despite them having travel insurance which covered her pregnancy.

  • AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    And yet you still have the opportunity to chime in about how you have televant qualifications, and you haven’t.

    Yes, like I said, we already agree that the system is bad. They were failed directly by the insurance company in this case, and there is pretty much nothing additional you could reasonably have expected from a hospital in an emergency situation like a premature birth.

    Your original comment put the blame at the hospital’s feet, not the insurance company’s feet. When called out, you justified it by saying “the whole system was wrong, I’m not here to argue minutia”.

    Indeed, you are here to force out a point, backtrack and move goalposts when called out, and act as if your messaging has an underlying “the system is bad” message, when you could have just said “yeah, the insurance company sucks in this case. Whole system is bad.”

    These people were failed (directly by the insurance company), and it shouldn’t have happened.

    Insufferable. Just learn to back down when you misspeak instead of getting defensive.

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      It seems a little funny to claim I am here upholding an agenda. What I am is unsure. Unsure where you’ve read my moving goalposts when I have just stated I stand by my initial comment - which in fact does not lay the blame on the hospital, but the for profit healthcare industry in the United States.

      Tell you the truth, this thread has drifted into a commentary on my word choices and my general disinterest in disclosing my career history to someone on the internet, so bringing this to a polite close isn’t something I’m willing to try for any further.

      Consider my insufferable self to be backed down, apologetic, and thoroughly defeated.

      • AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world
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        You quite literally attempted to place blame directly on the hospital and its staff at least once, and implied it multiple times. You also are attacking the for profit healthcare industry in the US (which is bad), but also are refusing to acknowledge the failure of a UK entity which is participating in, and profiting off, the same for profit industry. Rereading all your comments, you have refused to acknowledge the insurance company as the party at fault. The closest you come to admitting it is saying “the system is bad.”

        So maybe we can end it with a conciliatory agreement, since you “admit defeat” by writing out a comment attempting to reframe me as some sort of aggressor.

        So: we both agree. The American hospital, by participating in the for profit health industry, de facto sucks. The for profit health industry in America, sucks. The insurance company, by participating in the for profit health industry, de facto sucks. The insurance company, specifically, is the party directly responsible for this specific issue.

        Agree to those statements, as each one is factually true, and I’ll concede that you aren’t trying to whitewash the insurance company’s participation in the course of events.