A newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch delivered a sharp warning to President Donald Trump after a high-profile Republican loss.
In a new editorial, The Wall Street Journal warned Trump that a hardline immigration strategy promoted by top aide Stephen Miller is fueling voter backlash.
It comes after a Trump-endorsed candidate for the Texas state senate lost to a Democrat over the weekend.
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Some of us remember what it was like after 9/11…
If you think this is a cult that’s never happened before, you just don’t remember what it was like back then. They didn’t just have Republicans, they had 99% of the country.
If we can bounce back from that, we can bounce back from this.
Like, not saying shit isn’t terrible right now, it is.
But c’mon, be realistic. Even the racism and bigotry was worse after 9/11
They had 99% of the media. That’s an entirely different thing. The level of manufactured consent was never higher, but a considerable minority of the population understood what the real goals of the Patriot Act and the subsequent war on Iraq were.
Just to add to your point, there’s a documentary from around 04 or so called Jesus camp I believe where they honest to the gods prostrate themselves to a cardboard cutout of Bush. It’s surreal and just made me want to kill the adults in it, if you want to watch a commentary on it The Bible Reloaded did a video on it years ago, also Jake and Hannah (went by Hugo at the time) are both still chill.
I was younger but also not from the US so i’ve might have missed some on what was happening inside the USA at that time but i don’t doubt it was a real shit show back then
It was bad and everywhere.
Like, right now America is like 20-35% Maga, after 9/11 it was literally 99% of Americans that were cool with anything Dick Cheney wanted. Absolutely zero accountability and a blank check against any citizen who wasn’t fully behind the government.
Hell, I wore a “bad cop, no doughnut” shirt to highschool the year after 9/11, and got sent home for being unpatriotic. Even though no one could explain how that wasn’t patriotic or why it would be an issue even if it was.
We were invading countries left and right and killing an insane amount of civilians in other countries.
The reason trump seems much worse right now, is because he doesn’t have that level of support. That’s why he’s trying so hard to convince people we’re under attack. He wants a 9/11 or 10/7 sort of event so he can get that 9/11 level of support. Then shit is gonna get real fucking bad.
I’m not from the US but I’m old enough to remember 9/11, and what’s happening right now in your country seems waaaaay different from then. There was no ICE. People weren’t kidnapped in broad daylight. Bush wasn’t trying to subvert the electoral process. Minorities at large weren’t explicitly targeted.
Yes, the imperialism was happening abroad (war of terror) rather than domestically.
I was active on the internet around 9/11 and you truly wouldn’t believe the scale and toxicity of the hatred pouring out of the US at the time. It was an everyday occurrance where someone would wholeheartedly endorse using nuclear weapons against random Arab nations.
He don’t need the support he got fear and is own army in Ice ( and part of the US army )that wait just a word from him to start mass killing american he consider against him that why i thought it’s seem worst now but yet again i’m not in the US so i’m sure i don’t see or hear everything that’s happening ( trusted source are hard to find )
We didn’t bounce back from that. Obama renewed or expanded on the worst of bush’s policies for another 8 years. We ratcheted hard to the right. Trump is a symptom of the illness we caught in 2001.
The illness predates 2001. 9/11 was a result of Post WW2 foreign policy, remember! The US is an imperialist nation, fascism is imperialism turned inwards. This was inevitable all the way back to the nation’s founding. The destiny was truly manifested.
I don’t know if I fully agree. After 9/11, the conservative movement was attempting to change the consensus(Evil brown foreigners are coming to kill you and your family). The fact that a black man won the Presidency not once, but twice speaks to a failure to meaningfully change it.
A black man who authorized more drone strikes on black and brown people than any other. Obama did a lot of fascist shit. Liberals really struggle to accept that fact because of dumb tribalism.
The other commenter had it right, I’m afraid.
Being killed by a drone isn’t any worse than being killed by a bullet, an artillery shell or a bomb from a plane. If anything, it’s more likely to hit its intended target, and less likely to incur noncombatant casualties. Dead is dead.
Instead of fixating on a particular lethal technology (which has become a thought-terminating cliche), it makes better sense to look at the bigger picture. GW Bush’s second Gulf war was responsible for the deaths of approximately half a million civilians. Obama never came within two orders of magnitude of that level of senseless state violence. Probably even more orders of magnitude. And the civilian death toll that did occur under Obama (largely from the continuation of the Afghan war) was almost entirely attributable to tactics other than drone strikes.
The underlying point here that, as long as the US is prone to foreign military intervention, innocent people are going to die. But the both-sides argument is bullshit. The civilian body count has been overwhelmingly the result of Republican presidents’ actions since the end of the Vietnam war. Differences in degree matter. Binary thinking is barely thinking at all.
No, this argument IS NOT bullshit.
What will it take for you to realize both Republicans and Democrats serve the ruling elite, just in a different way?
Democrats ALWAYS HAVE ENABLED THE REPUBLICANS.
They’ve NEVER challenged the ruling elite.
They’ve NEVER walked back from authoritarianism.
They’ve NEVER pushed the needle back towards the left, they just push it right or let the republicans push it right.
You need to WAKE THE FUCK UP. Both Republicans and Democrats are the enemy and need to be removed. I know that sounds hard, so it’s tempting to want to deny reality and hope the democrats will save us BUT THEY WON’T.
It was the American response to 9/11 that ended my desire to ever travel there. The latest bout of fascism just confirms it.
Get well soon.