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This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.
I disagree. This is what protest-non-voters failed to vote against.
Saying that they voted for this is implying that it is what they wanted. It is not the same thing as not carefully considering the potential outcomes. I agree that they bear some responsibility for what’s happening because of their failure to engage in the best course of action to prevent it. I do also think it is very much an inaccurate statement to say that it is what they voted for.
Put simply, intent matters. It doesn’t matter if the material outcome is the same.
“complicit” is the word
something tells me dulce consuela diaz morales wouldn’t give a shit about their intents.
trust me, the history books will not care about anyone’s intents either, just the material outcome they enabled.
You’re folding yourself into pretzels trying to reword this.
I’m not rewording anything. I’m stating a disagreement with your wording which I think implies intent where there may be none.
Sigh. Since you really need it: You’re twisting yourself into pretzels trying to get out of the message.
And what you think is implied (in both instances) is not.
Hey man, dont judge me, i had to make absolutely no impact on a situation halfway across the world while making my own country much worse.
I think youll find i did a great job.
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DNC shot themselves in the face, no one liked the former VP. We could have Bernie Sanders and win by a landslide if the DNC didn’t put him under the bus
This is like blaming a school shooting victim for being in the hallway instead of in their classroom.
Yeah, it would’ve helped. Yeah, they should’ve been where they’re supposed to be. None of that is the real issue, and it’s insulting to bring it up in the context of the shooting.
And I think we’re back to: See article and this is what you voted for protest-non-voters.
You see i did vote blue so this doesnt include me, but logically, you could make the exact opposite argument. This is what the DNC wanted by not courting people who clearly defined what it would have taken to get their vote. I dont agree with the protest voters actions, but i do agree with their principles.
But you can’t control the DNC. You can control you. So do what you can, vote. But also, don’t stop at voting. The only way the DNC moves is if we push them. Or we grassroots and build the viable infrastructure for a third party. Or we burn everything down and start from scratch. But whatever else we are doing, we can also vote. So yes, you’re right about what the DNC should have done, but we can only influence them, we are not them. But we are responsible for our own autonomy. So fucking vote, and vote correctly, not cutely.
So you’re happy with trump being potus and think he’s better than Harris would have been?
I’m just going to copy an earlier reply I’ve made to this argument, since nothing has changed
"Speaking as a leftist who swallowed my pride and voted for a fascist genocide supporter because for all her useless platitudes Harris was still a better option and I’m willing to admit that; go fuck yourself.
You want to know why people didn’t get behind Harris? It’s because her boss ran on rolling back the damage Trump 1.0 had done and then continued operating concentration camps on the southern border. It’s because time and time again even the radical Democrats have proven themselves to be feckless, incompetent, hand-wringing cowards who can’t be trusted to do the job they were elected for until it’s time to “compromise with Republicans” by inflating the defense budget and passing tax cuts for the wealthy. Harris would have seen her approval numbers falter and start rounding up brown folks no different from Trump, the difference being she’d have kept her mouth shut about it and so would the media until six weeks before midterms. Her platform was a gun and a nightstick with a BLM sticker tacked onto it, no different from Biden or Obama.
Biden put ZERO pressure on Israel to reign in their genocide in Gaza and Harris would have done no differently source the United States has effectively unlimited leverage in this conflict and they refuse to use it no matter which side is in office. I voted for those lying crooks despite knowing that, but I don’t blame a goddamn person for whom that was a deal breaker, it should be.
You know how Harris would have been different, she’d have been competent. She wouldn’t have tanked the economy with these ridiculous tarrifs, cozied us up to Russia, threatened and alienated our closest allies and trading partners or surged DHS’s budget to unthinkable levels, but the next Republican in office sure would have. The courts are packed, the Dems will always have a defector (just like mean old Joe Manchin), there will always be a convenient excuse why they’re so feckless and ineffectual and all electing Harris would have done is delay the inevitable by another four years. Acting like the US’ slide into authoritarianism which has been ongoing since the Wilson administration is anything new or aberrant to our current era is either wishful thinking or complete brainless ignorance of history. Trump isn’t the problem, Trump voters aren’t even the problem, this is the result of deep rooted contradictions in the very foundation of the Republic bearing their poison fruit.
All is not lost, others are getting organized, demonstrating, protesting, taking action. The only thing that gets us out of this is solidarity and mutual support but by all means, sit on your ass and continue to point fingers at others you’d seek to blame, because they were wrong and that’s all that matters right?"
Try not to choke on that boot you’re licking
I don’t think the moral of “you better fucking vote” counts as boot licking.
Not in the abstract no, but I find the implication that someone who found Harris’s stance on Gaza to be a deal breaker is thusly responsible for empowering Trump to count for sure. As I detailed above I voted for her despite my misgivings, I felt it was practical and effective harm reduction under the circumstances and I stand by that decision, but I refuse to condemn someone who came to a different conclusion and I’m openly critical of those who do.
The Democrats need to stand for more than “we’re not Republicans”, and Harris muzzled a popular and progressive VP pick in favor of sprinting to the right to pick up some fabled middle voters. Then people act indignant that she lost the support of the left wing in the process.
I resent the implication which is often made, that by standing for one’s principles and refusing to support someone actively abetting a genocide one takes on responsibility for empowering the opponent, even if the opponent is objectively worse. And yeah Trump is worse, and by a lot it’s not even a fucking contest, including on Gaza but that still doesn’t make Harris or anyone else entitled to the votes of all Trump’s political opponents. If you’re selecting your candidate by who’s the least worse the result will be a race to the bottom and I’ve got all the respect in the world for those who put their foot down even though I chose a different response
I read till I saw “radical Democrats” and I knew all I needed to. You’re one of them “I’m totally a leftist on the Internet trust me bro” types, but probably some opposition bot or some shit
It’s entirely fair to call me on that. To be more specific I had AOC in mind when I’d written this, particularly her decision to vote present when the Biden admin was forcing striking rail workers back to work. It’d kind of felt like a stab in the back at the time and still does but she’s shown herself to be a person of principle and character since then so whether it was a misstep or a tactical decision I was misunderstanding I’ve softened a lot since then where she’s concerned. She’s not perfect obviously, no one in politics is and I learned a long time ago to not let perfect be the enemy of good but that still doesn’t excuse enabling the status quo when other options exist. I think we’re in a real crisis and I was especially angry about that when this was written, I’d said it was important to organize and network within your community, to take real action to reduce harm and to drum up support for real justice when the time comes, only to be hit with “Why organize when so many ‘leftists’ wouldn’t even vote for Harris?” I’m paraphrasing as the comment has long since been deleted. This argument that we’re in this mess because others voted wrong or stuck to a purity test boils my blood because not only do I think it’s factually incorrect, it doesn’t do a damn thing to fix the very real problems we’re currently facing. I’m fed up with Schumer and the establishment Dems, and I’m even more fed up with progressives who wind up like Fetterman and compromise on their earlier principles but I recognize the need to work with less radical liberals because the alternative is pretty plainly fascism
Counterpoint: Beggars can’t be choosers, but choosers can become beggars. Those who didn’t vote for harm reduction and are currently without income and social assistance personify that fact. I appreciate your stance, but have no sympathy for those who chose 2024 to “put their foot down”.
Which is a valid position to take. I never intended to change anyone’s mind on what the right path was in 2024. For better and very much for worse we’re all in the same leaky ass boat and it’s going to take serious and sustained cross popular activism to keep us all from drowning. Harris Stans, hard line progressive Puritans, hell I’ll take remorseful Trumpets because at this point it’s more important to be doing damage control and repairs than it is to litigate who was responsible for getting us into this mess. To be clear I’m not suggesting you or most others in this thread are attempting to relitigate that, but I’ve seen an infuriating tendency to dismiss potential allies because something is “their fault” rather than doing the work of building a strong coalition. I’m of the opinion the only successful long term strategy is grassroots, pushing for principled candidates from all backgrounds who will follow through on their stated goals. Our first goal must be to stop the bleeding, but to heal the damage we MUST put a stop to the duoparty ratchet effect which has been pushing the US to the right for decades, and the only way to do that is to primary Dems from the left. To provide real and actionable solutions to the crises facing the US, and in a really fucked up way Trump has given this movement a generational opportunity. These idiots have shit the bed so hard they’ve created an opportunity for a seismic change in policy, and a corresponding appetite with swing voters.
I hope when you say you have no sympathy for those folks you’re speaking facetiously. I understand how you feel, but it makes me very sad. Not that you in isolation are feeling this way but that such a position is understandable in the first place. This is a messed up time
Who said I’m blaming? I am informing protest-non-voters what they voted for.
Considering your tone (and that your comment barely even responsed to what I said), ciao.
No
Whatever you’re in to man, just pick a safe word first
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I’m just informing protest-non-voters what they voted for.
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See? You’re on “responsiblity”, while I am informing. So, cheers.
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Can I inform you that you’re acting like an asshole and nobody is going to listen to what you have to say if you deliver it that way?
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If you didn’t suck it up and vote for Kamala, yes, I think you are more to blame for Trump than a person who did vote for her. It sounds to me like you are a protest non voter that is having trouble accepting the consequences of their actions and lashing out at people that did vote because they “didn’t do more”, which is wildly hypocritical. We don’t all have time in our lives for activism, voting is most of what a normal person has access to to affect change.
As both a trans woman and a Hispanic person I can tell you, I’m scared too. This IS the fault of trump voters but abstaining or third party voting made it worse. Is it the main cause? The main problem? No, but swallowing a bitter pill would have maybe saved us some of the pain and fear. I live in texas and I refuse to run, I’ll stay here and fight bitterly and hold my nose while making incremental change.
“How come other people didn’t put more effort into getting me to to vote for the obviously better choice?” Ffs, you are responsible for your own vote.
What do you mean by this? Innocent of what?
Apparently they meant we didn’t do enough to convince others. Here I thought they meant we all share blame because we “consent” to being governed in this manner.
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Blaming voters is such a weak stance, its always just comes down to personal grievances. Your vote blaming logic could be applied to anyone.
This is what you voted for, Barack Obama voters! His tepid implementation of DACA left this poor girl with very few legal protections!
This is what you voted for, Joe Biden voters! Biden could have defunded ICE, instead he gave them billions!
This is what you voted for, Chester A Arthur voters! Your implementation of the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 was inevitably going to lead to this!
I am informing protest-non-voters what they voted for.
Yea and I’m informing Chester A Arthur voters about what they voted for lol
The difference is that Arthur voters have more blame on their shoulders, because they actually changed the outcome of an election, unlike “protest non-voters”.
I’m certain that I saw an article on here recently saying the exact opposite of this, but I can’t find it. I’ll look through my comment history maybe to try to find it
Edit: found it
https://newrepublic.com/article/204271/why-democrats-lost-2024-election-trump-way-to-win-report
Oops, looks like you’re gonna have to start lying to yourself if you want to continue pretending that you’re not partially responsible for what is happening in this country right now
Your TNR article correctly asserts that Dems lost because they failed to motivate their base. It is explaining how the Democratic Party’s policies on the economy and immigration had a strong negative effect on voter turnout.
It says nothing about protest voters, and only a passing mention of Gaza. I was under the impression that “protest non voters” referred explicitly to those voters who concerned themselves with the genocide in Palestine.
If you expand the scope of “protest non voters” to include those who didn’t vote due to the economy or immigration policy, then I agree with you completely.
Yes, that’s the reason people give for why they didn’t vote. No shit.
Still their fault.
Your whole spiel was that I was blaming. Now you turn a 180 when I point out that I am informing. Well kinda, because you’re right back to blame. So cheers.
Well I’m honestly curious what your intention is when you “inform” these non voters of their mistake.
Is it all about emotional release? Or do you honestly believe that you can shame these voters into voting correctly next time?
Why is your focus on this tiny subset of voters, and not focused on Trump voters?
From my standpoint, you’re just doing more damage to the already fractured Democratic Party base. Damaging the Democratic Party is helping Trump win a third term.
I can only speak for myself, but for me it comes from the frustration of arguing with these people over and over before the election, trying to explain why it’s a terrible idea, then having to live through the past year and seeing them still refuse to accept it.
So it’s all about emotional release, at least you’re honest.
Do you agree that this type of rhetoric is divisive; fracturing the Dem party; and ultimately helping Trump and MAGA?
“aT LeASt I dIdNT vOtE FOr geNoCIdE!”
Looks like that solved that problem. Hey Gaza, how’s it going over there!?