cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/59455315

Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura says the people of his state should consider leaving the United States. In an interview on the SpinSisters podcast that premiered Saturday, Ventura pitched his plan by saying that it’s clear President Donald Trump doesn’t want the state.

“How about since Trump dislikes Minnesota so bad and we’re so out of control, let’s join Canada. Instead of Canada becoming the 51st state of America and lose their healthcare… I’d like to see Minnesota, all of us become Canadians,” Ventura said. Make this part of Canada, because it’s obvious Donald Trump don’t want us. It’s obviously he’s ready to fracture the whole country for his own folly."

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    1 day ago

    In the US it can be no more than a masturbatory thought experiment. As I said, that was settled, and you know it was bad enough when southern republicans would talk like that with their whole “The South Will Rise Again”. No the fuck it won’t, but boy will it, and the Republican party in general, let the oldest trick in the CIA handbook for regime change work on them. They fell for a ringer.

    Falling to republican talking points and empty threats is a waste of energy that could otherwise be used to do actual good.

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      21 hours ago

      You might be the most delusional person I’ve read an opinion from on here if you think another civil war and dissolution of the union isn’t possible or even likely this point in time.

      Just because “it was settled” in the first civil war doesn’t mean it’s settled now and forever, thats not how anything works at all.

      Don’t bother responding I don’t have time for the naive so you’re blocked

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      23 hours ago

      Sounds like what the British thought before the revolutionary war. When the government stops giving a shit about laws and the constitution. There is going to be a breaking point. In Minnesota we have been following the rules, staying peaceful, yet they have not turned down the occupation.

      But eventually that will run out. “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable” -JFK

      Empires come and go with time. Look at any point in history.

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        21 hours ago

        Y’all have been done wrong. I’m not arguing that at all. And if the country balkanizes then all bets are off. But if not, we have on record how a state that attempts to secede will be dealt with. Following the rules and staying peaceful isn’t going to help you either. One way or another, either in your yard or mine, fighting is going to be with more than words and signs.

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          20 hours ago

          Agreed. Nobody wins. But right now, our communities and neighbors are being ripped from their homes, walking around streets, in public.

          Eventually people will say enough is enough if our state or federal government doesn’t change anything. And right now, words and signs don’t seem to be doing anything. Just trying to stay hopeful, while I can.

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            19 hours ago

            Arm and train while you can too, if you are comfortable owning weapons and can afford to get one. Private sales are best for privacy. If the violence just isn’t for you, learn how to give emergency medical care, stopping bleeding, CPR, and the like, and carry what supplies aren’t too inconvenient. Hope and effort are all we’ve got left.