• Dasus@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      I don’t think the kids hate it, just that the attention span isn’t what it used to be.

      But it also works for us imo, to a degree. I at least find the pacing of 80’s or 90’s tv much calmer. And I daresay a movie from the B&W era would be slower still.

      And I don’t think there’s yet a professional short-form making masterclass so that’s where the kids end up

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        2 days ago

        Ever watch 2001: A Space Odyssey? I love it, but man it’s slow.

        Also it’s a movie that asks more questions than it answers, which annoys a lot of people.

        I saw Terminator 3 in the theater. The first 20-30:minutes, with that crazy chase, I was like, is this going to be the whole film? Eventually it does show down and take a breath, but I still remember my initial reaction to that.

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          24 hours ago

          a lot of people are idiots if they are looking for ‘answers’ in entertainment products.

          i don’t expect my car to tell me the purpose of life. i expect it to get me places.

          and the purpose of film class is to teach you how films work as a medium and learn to analyze them as such. not to entertain you.

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            a lot of people are idiots if they are looking for ‘answers’ in entertainment products.

            Yeah psshtt they can go to their mom to cry about “satisfying narratives” and “stories which make sense”.

            A car is a mode of transport. That’s why it doesn’t tell you shit, but you can use it yo travel. However movies aren’t modes of transportation, and instead are media for stories.

            Is this all honestly news to you? Have you hit your head? Want me to call an ambulance?

            • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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              sorry, do you think all stories must be a certain way? or subscribe to a certain structure?

              i mean, there are lots of different types of cars. a monster truck isn’t for travel, not is drag strip racer.

              No, I’m just not a twat who threatens people with violence with they have a different perspective. Do you want to go beat the crap out of Stanley Kubrick because he didn’t make the movie you wanted him to make? Does it offend you that thinks you don’t like or enjoy, exist?

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                1 hour ago

                “A certain way” in much the same sense all cars need four+ wheels, a steering wheel and an accelerator and some breaks. If I get into the tiny details, having lights is also rather good.

                What you were saying is that it’s unreasonable to expect stories to be… well, stories. You know, with a beginning, middle and end?

                Unless you’re trying to tell me that two-wheeled chain driven transport with no steering wheel or motor is also “a car”, I think I’ve made my point.

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                  i’m not aware of any definition of story that requires it have those elements, or they be presented in that order.

                  you have a very narrow definition of what a story is, and seem to think anything outside of that structure is bad or wrong.

                  i mean you can define a car however you want. doesn’t mean other people have to drive such cars or agree with you. definitions change. is a semi truck a car? it has all those qualities. but i wouldn’t call it a car and i’d considerate to have zero overlap with operating a car, hence why operating trucks often requires a CBD and not a regular drivers license.

                  I’m guessing you never took a college level film class? I took several. A lot of the movies we watched, and I’ve seen seen outside of class, don’t subscribe to your definition of story at all. I still very much enjoyed them and thought some of them were far superior to marvel movies.

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            I don’t think you understood what I meant. Most movies wrap up all the plotlines at the end. 2001 just leaves the viewer wondering what happens next. You see the star child, then the movie just ends. There’s also no explanation about the people that built the monoliths and transformed Bowman.

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              That’s the point of the movie. It’s not suppose to answer questions.

              You simple want it to be a totally different movie than it is. You want it to be a nice convenient package that doesn’t make you question anything or think.

              Other people actually enjoy thinking about things. They don’t want answers and they don’t care about plotlines.

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                  I don’t think you understood what I meant. Most movies wrap up all the plotlines at the end. 2001 just leaves the viewer wondering what happens next. You see the star child, then the movie just ends. There’s also no explanation about the people that built the monoliths and transformed Bowman.

                  that’s you.

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                    God, why are you arguing this?

                    This is also what I said before:

                    Also it’s a movie that asks more questions than it answers, which annoys a lot of people.

                    Learn to fucking read and comprehend. I’m out of this conversation and blocking you.

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        i am still awestruck by that short of that girl who tosses her phone up in the air and it spins around a few times and gets the amazing slomo spinny shot of the beach and then boobs. I’m gonna be honest, i used to do camera work and i still can’t figure out how she thought it up (not the boobs part, everyone can think up boobs) she is a genius. she could cut out the boobs part it is such an amazing shot.