The footage of the fatal shooting of Alex Jeffrey Pretti, said one journalist, “shows that the final act of his life was trying to help a woman who was being physically assaulted by the masked agents who would then kill him.”
In the original video of the shooting of a man in Minneapolis, identified by the Minneapolis Star Tribune at 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a woman in a pink coat was seen in the background filming the incident with her phone.
Drop Site News obtained footage that appeared “to come from the direction of the woman in pink filming from the sidewalk” and showed the shooting at a closer distance than the footage taken from inside Glam Doll Donuts.
In the video, the shooting victim, dressed in a brown coat and pants, is seen filming a federal agent with his phone. He’s then seen guiding another person toward the sidewalk as the agent forcefully shoves a third person to the ground.
Just bear in mind that many Fediverse instances are in Europe and Europe has no free speech culture. EG In Germany, people who upload videos of police are commonly prosecuted for GDPR violations. It violates the fundamental rights of the police officers. When European activists oppose Big Tech in the name of democracy, they want more censorship; more government control.
Oh piss off. We have legislation against hate speech. You know because it led to millions of deaths in our continent. The disgraceful state of your country is a direct consequence of your asinine interpretations about free speech.
Please dont boil it down to this. It is perfectly legal to post videos of police in Germany, you just have to obscure the faces of all people in the video that did not consent to it being publicy available. Furthermore, the spoken word has additonal protections in place. Yes, the european data protection legislation can be difficult to navigate, but bear in mind that it focuses on the personal rights of ALL people, even police. However there is still the possibility to publish material unedited if it has cultural or historical significance. Of couse this would go to court, but hey: At least we have courts to settle those matters transparently. KG Berlin – Az.: 2 ORs 31/23 – 121 Ss 130/23 – Urteil vom 30.11.2023
Right. Merely making the recording may already be criminal; not only sharing it. I didn’t want to sound too alarmist. But when we’re ad it. Pixelating the faces means processing personal data which may already be illegal.
What it boils down to is this: If some lawless government goons arrest anyone recording their deeds and seized their phones, no honest, law-abiding judge or police officer would see a problem with that. Anyone live-streaming, just in case, would be guilty of violating fundamental rights in the eyes of all defenders of European values. The government could rely on the technical and organizational infrastructure to enforce GDPR to suppress inconvenient videos without bending the law.
But no problem. Freedom of information is in the constitution. So you just go to court and insist on your right. Of course, a far right government will have packed the highest courts with its people, and so you lose. Well, everyone has rights. Freedom of information isn’t everything. No problem there.
You pretty much just described what’s happened in America, headquarters for “It can’t happen here.” It can, it did, and it will happen in Europe when someone decides that “fairness” in any law or policy is an excuse to exploit the shit out of it.
Europe has a lot less social resistance to this stuff. You can see it here. Watching the watchmen turns out to be one of the best tools for defending democracy. And still the call is for more censorship. It’s insane.
Did you pick up, like 2 weeks ago, when Italy fined Cloudflare for not censoring hard enough? Italy is literally ruled by a fascist party. They literally present themselves as being in the tradition of Benito Mussolini. No one bats a fucking eye.
Of course, the censorship is about copyright; protecting the Italian media industry. Maybe people here are too young or unpolitical to remember Italian media billionaire Silvio Berlusconi. In the 1990s, he used his media empire to get himself elected prime minister and escape prosecution for corruption. At one point, he used his office and some lies to get an underage prostitute, he’d been fucking at one of his sex parties, released from police custody. That guy was Italy’s longest serving prime minister since WW2. He then was an MEP until 2022.
Italian intellectuals, identified Trump as a Berlusconi-type populist 10 years ago, when Berlusconi was fading out and Trump rising. Maybe something could be learned from that experienced.
So it’s not like Europeans believe that “It can’t happen here.” It is happening all the time. I think the pro-censorship people are simply so privileged that they can’t conceive of the state ever not being on their side. They seem to feel that being harassed or doxed on the net is the worst that could ever happen to them, personally, and they might be right.
You clearly have no legal training and know nothing about EU law or the national legal systems of its members, many which go back to ancient Roman law.
Go back to school, JD.
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JD, is that you?
EU have a freedom of expression law and multiple countries also have constitutional freedom of speech, including right to film police
Germany is also rather unique in having laws with opaque interpretations
https://digit.site36.net/2023/01/31/police-violence-in-germany-misuse-of-wiretapping-paragraph/
I just hate reading missinformation like this.
At public spaces you can take pictures and video as much as you want. But you cant release personal information or violate or ridicule anybody in the picture. And you cant release anything that contains information that might ruin undercover operation, but in that case police must provide a proof that the undercover mission was ongoing and approved at the time.
Private citizen cant be procuted for GDPR violation. Only reqister keeppers ie. the company who collects the data can violate it. Only exception is if private person is creating a database, meaning they have names, addresses, emails, phone numbers or any other personal information like that connected to the photos and in that case its called illegal database, not GDPR violation.
GDPR is not about censorship, its about persons right for anominity and persons right to know what data has been collected from them (Thats strange, allmost like thats two rights EU citizens have, that USA citizens dont. Sounds like EU citizens have… can i say it… more freedom than people in states).
Im going to try to be nice and think you wrote what you did, because if missinformation you have heard, or poor understanding of the law and not because you try to spread lies on purpose.
Awfully high horse you are on up there. Why don’t you get down to reality that privacy protections in GDPR are just a lip service in a world ran by big tech.
Corporations rule and pretending laws are protecting you while they have control is rather ridiculous.
The maximum punishment for GDPR breach is 4% of the companys world wide renevue. I dont know if you understand business but that 4% is shit ton. Its not 4% of gross profit, its from revevue, its 4% of the all the money the that has gone trough the company. So tech bros are taking it seriously. I mean what they are going to do? Start to follow the quidelines or risk losing all the profits they are gettin from worlds second biggest market?
Meta is currently in court for €1,2 billion and so far it does not look like they are getting away from it. Google has also €2,95 billion fine on the table. Lets shelf this conversation and see if they pay up and if they start to follow the law.
What really is ridiculous is bitching about different continents laws while (im guessing you are from states) your own country is spreading its cheecks and asking the big tech to come in.
Oh please, the entire law creates an undue burden on smaller firms while the larger ones skirt the rules. This continues to benefit big tech (and big business) and until Europe pushes them out completely everything you say is nonsense. If GDPR actually changes how these big companies steal and use data I will gladly eat my hat.
Undue burden of what? Keeping their data in order? Ooh the terror?!
By happenstance i was working in one of those smaller businesses when the law first came to be and i was one of the dudes whose job was to make sure we followed the new regulations and it was hardly an ordeal. Now years later the amount of the time i spent monthly doing work with GDPR requests is so negligible, it really did not matter workload wise if the law even was there.
Is it really so hard to imagine things might work differently in somewhere else?
Uh. Hope you like the taste if your hat. The whole marketing indrustry in EU, from online adds to telemarketing has fundamentally changed the way they can and will advertise to, or contact their customers or potential customers.
Data breach notifications have been getting much better. GTPR demands that after finding the breach company has 72 hours time to notify customers effected, if later time there are any proof company has tried to cover databreach they get hit by the fines. By 2025 there had already been over 281 000 data breach notifications. Including notifications from big companies like Google, meta and amazon. Before GDPR those companies had no need to report any of those.
Fortune 500 companies have spended over €7.8 billion to comply with the law. Do you think none of that money has made any changes how they do busines?
But you are right. Its not perfect and big companies keep lobbying against it and there are new hurdles like AI that still needs to be figured out. But saying it has amounted to nothing or trying to belittle its effects is just playing in to the hand of those tech companies.
If it does not work, why would other countries and states like California bother to make their own similiar legistlations?
Compliance costs which you admit to. You can’t fathom that this legislation benefited big business because you don’t understand what is really going on. That is okay.
Believing any policy passed is not favoring big business is willfully ignoring reality at this point. As I stated, until these privacy violating megacorps are removed there is no privacy. The governments are complicit in this information grab as well.
Frankly, this law may have been a good start. So far I am not impressed.
Wow. It must be really bleak in your world. I mean seeing real facts about something and being just able to shrug it off, just because “megacorps”.
Do you have any numbers or real arguments, or are you just in somekind of denial, that because things there are bad they must be so elsewhere too?
Digital Markets Act Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive REACH Regulation
There are few other legistlations other than GDPR that also make big companies to take respinsibility. If any if these are made favoring big business, why those businesses would spend millions yearly lobbying against them?
Real facts that 90%+ of all policy written in your country is at the request of corporations?
That the majority of all messaging goes through Whatsapp?
I mean you are so cooked and at the same time in denial it isn’t funny. Every major power’s spy program is wholesale buying information hoovered up Meta and there is no legislation to stop it.
You think you can control big tech but they have already corrupted your governments. They are complicit trading your rights for the convenience of spying on everyone.
So when I say get off your high horse pretending you have some rights and your government is stopping this I mean it. Stop pretending.
Everything you wrote is factually wrong.
I think you are confused, poor thing. It was your comment that had the facts wrong.
Is this a joke about the EU’s desire to curb misinformation? Like, I’m 90% sure that you can’t be serious.
The so-called activists you are exposed to that are backed by powerful interests do indeed try to get more censorship.
They have plenty of real activists I would add just as an aside, the ones fighting chat control and age checks and other such Trojan horses they are trying to bring inside to rat fuck the internet.
It is just we are fighting organized monied groups as disparate peoples, so the organized efforts to id every ip and account in europe with id and likeness and run it all through ai threat detection owned by palantir types to make secret social scores that will secretly determine everything from your job prospects, police attention, loans, to prices charged and even what info search engines show you, that all seems like activist groups because we have at most banded into public interest groups fighting rearguard and woeking disparatly off of guerilla reporters’ scoops,while they have a well funded and orchestrated plan using groups like protecct the children with studies they commission and lawmakers they leased and media they are in league with or indeed own.
It is tech behind a lot of it. Even opposing big tech, is oftentimes schemes to surrender to big tech, as is chatcontrol and age checks.
Derp